Is that post-flop line too aggressive?

[elitemob]

Hi guys,

I just had two hands, hit good and was wondering if I was too aggressive about them and if I could have extracted more value from them:

Hand 1:

Hero's M = 56.00

Table '99492273 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: 007silverfox (2560 in chips)
Seat 2: snipes123432 (1480 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: Jschead1 (1920 in chips)
Seat 5: PSU71 (1440 in chips)
Seat 6: UMFAN1983 (1440 in chips)
Seat 7: stretchy88 (1480 in chips)
Seat 8: hornsby7 (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero (1680 in chips)
UMFAN1983: posts small blind 10
stretchy88: posts big blind 20
Preflop: Hero dealt A A
hornsby7 has timed out
hornsby7: folds
Hero: raises 60 to 80
007silverfox: folds
snipes123432: folds
Jschead1: folds
PSU71: folds
UMFAN1983: folds
stretchy88: calls 60
Flop: 7 7 2
stretchy88: checks
Hero: bets 90
stretchy88: raises 110 to 200
Hero: raises 1400 to 1600 and is all-in
stretchy88: folds
Uncalled bet (1400) returned to Hero
Hero collected 570 from pot
Hero: doesn't show hand


Hand 2:

Hero's M = 45.44

Seat 1: 007silverfox (2530 in chips)
Seat 2: snipes123432 (1000 in chips)
Seat 4: Jschead1 (1815 in chips)
Seat 5: PSU71 (3545 in chips)
Seat 7: stretchy88 (1230 in chips)
Seat 8: hornsby7 (1335 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero (2045 in chips)
hornsby7: posts small blind 15
Hero: posts big blind 30
Preflop: Hero dealt 3 3
007silverfox: raises 60 to 90
snipes123432: folds
Jschead1: folds
PSU71: folds
stretchy88: folds
hornsby7: folds
Hero: calls 60
Flop: 3 9 T
Hero: bets 150
007silverfox: calls 150
Turn: A
Hero: bets 300
007silverfox: raises 300 to 600
Hero: raises 1205 to 1805 and is all-in
007silverfox: folds
Uncalled bet (1205) returned to Hero
Hero collected 1695 from pot
Hero: doesn't show hand


What'd you guys think?
Cheers, elitemob.

[taipan168]

Hand 1 (AA) - I would bet just a little more on the flop to try to build the pot. As played, I think the shove is a bit too much, if he had been aggressive I would either just flat call and hope he bets the turn or raise to something like 350-400 and hope he shoves over, if he had been passive I definitely raise and keep betting the turn if he calls the flop raise.

Hand 2 (33) - I think this is fine and I am actually surprised that he did not call given how many chips he already put in the pot.

[kmind]

1: Your flop bet is fine but I would bet a TAD bigger, but can't fault your size at all so no worries. As played, just call the flop raise in most cases. Turn is more read based on if I want to bet or c/rai.

2: Fine. Basically what taipan said, I am surprised he folded as well.

[mukaka]

hand 1 - what others said, if you are positive he'll bet the turn when you call, definitely call..

hand 2 - obv fine..

[Fnord]

re-raising the flop in the first hand is pretty bad.

See Also: Yeti Theorm and think about lines with deep stacks on dry flops.

[rvrking22]

hand one- IDK how good of a player villian is but he most likely raised you because of how dry the flop was expecting you to fold...calling here IMO is the best play but I dont think your going to extract much more value out of it....I kind of like raising 320-375 here also....

hand two- like everyone else, played fine

[kmind]

rvrking22 - what are the merits of 3betting the flop as opposed to just calling in hand 1?

[TLR]

Hand1: Call reraise, try to get his chips in on later streets
Hand2: fine

[taipan168]

rvrking22 - what are the merits of 3betting the flop as opposed to just calling in hand 1?

As I said above, it depends on reads on opp for me. If he's a passive calling station then I definitely put in like a min re-raise or slightly more since he won't fold and we can't rely on him to bet later streets for us (so we have to bet for him and let him call). If he's aggressive and will fire again on the turn as a further bluff then I definitely call the raise and let him do that.

[kmind]

yeah sometimes rr here is good but I would assume in most cases just calling creates a much wider range for getting more chips in on future streets