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  1. #1

    Default AA 200NL

    BTN is a TAG regular, not very aggressive. doesn't value bet light or go to showdown very often.

    not sure what to do on the turn since the third spade hit. 100bb deep and i'd jam, but here i'm 150bb deep.


    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    UTG ($372.30)
    MP ($226.70)
    Button ($410.65)
    Hero ($321.30)
    BB ($215.15)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A.
    1 fold, MP calls $2, Button raises to $10, Hero raises to $32, 1 fold, MP folds, Button calls $22.

    Flop: ($68) T, Q, 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $44, Button calls $44.

    Turn: ($156) 5 (2 players)
    Hero...
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    Just a question for balance-sake:

    say you have AKo with a spade, are you generally barreling this turn?
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    Tough spot, I often do something retarded like check/bomb the flop or just get it in bad on the turn.
  4. #4
    1/2 pot & fold to raise?

    Hollywood check and value bet harmless rivers?

    This spot is nasty. I dunno.
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    what range do you think he has once he calls your 3bet? kind of hard to say without atleast having an idea of that...
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    given that he fastplays flop with better hands almost every time and you dont want to see a lot of rivers, i think a check/bomb is in order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    Just a question for balance-sake:

    say you have AKo with a spade, are you generally barreling this turn?
    i missed your 4k-th post... good to see you're back to posting again!

    yea my default play with AK with a spade would be to barrel, but now that nutsinho has suggested i check/bomb the turn with AA, i'd probably want to check/bomb the turn with my big flush draws too

    couple minutes of thought



    now i shall use renton theorem to figure out what i'd do on this turn with the rest of my hands...

    A: Axss, Kxss
    B: lower flushes, KJ, sets, two pair, AQ, KK+
    C: AsXx, XxKs
    D: everything else (KQ and worse)

    is this an accurate distribution of the hands in my range?


    if that is relatively accurate, it looks like i should be check/bombing A, B, and C and check/folding D.
    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters
    Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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    I don't really think he has a flush that often but I do think he will check behind most of his 1 pair hands if we check so I'm going for some type of bet/call or bet fold.

    Also I think your pf and flop bets should be bigger.
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    i think maybe i check the flop
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    renton's advice is spot on, there seems to be little value in betting this flop. As played that turn completes even more hands that have us beat, i'd elect to control pot if we can and watch his bet sizing as he might have the goods
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Tough spot, I often do something retarded like check/bomb the flop or just get it in bad on the turn.
    why would you check the flop when the villain isnt aggro.
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    oh i wasn't saying to c/r, i was saying to c/c or have the street checked through
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    Quote Originally Posted by will641
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Tough spot, I often do something retarded like check/bomb the flop or just get it in bad on the turn.
    why would you check the flop when the villain isnt aggro.
    I just said what retarded line I usually run here. Don't confuse that with what might be an ideal line.
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    Default Re: AA 200NL

    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    oh i wasn't saying to c/r, i was saying to c/c or have the street checked through
    Quote Originally Posted by I
    Flop: ($68) T, Q, 9 (2 players)
    Hero...
    A: KJ, J8s, QQ, TT, 99, QTs, Q9s, nut flush draws, KQss, QJss, Q8ss
    B: T9s, QJs, KK+, AQ, KQ
    C: weaker made hands and draws
    D: air

    ideally i'd bet/3bet A and bet/fold C and D. If i'd like to c/c with the hands in my B group, i'd want to c/c some hands from my A group. I'm thinking the sets would work best for this since they redraw best versus a flush.

    here's the percentage distribution of each group of hands to more accurately determine how to balance my range:

    A: 3.9% of total hands
    B: 3.9% ""
    C: 5-6% ish ""
    D: 4-5% ish ""

    interestingly, each group is weighted about evenly.

    QQ/TT/99 represent about a third of my "A" range.


    so that's the legwork, what do you guys think about how i can manipulate my range to correctly take a passive line on the flop?
    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters
    Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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    Quote Originally Posted by nutsinho
    given that he fastplays flop with better hands almost every time and you dont want to see a lot of rivers, i think a check/bomb is in order.
    ^^^^
    this
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    I think you guys are all smoking something I just betcall the turn there are soooo many pair plus draws in his range that will desperation shove but check behind the turn

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