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    Default 200NL: QQ with flush FLOP

    $1/$2 No Limit Holdem
    10 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG ($108.90)
    UTG+1 ($232.90)
    Hero ($215.30)
    MP1 ($200.25)
    MP2 ($204.90)
    MP3 ($247.65)
    CO ($44.00)
    BTN ($263.85)
    SB ($192.00)
    BB ($40.00)

    Pre-flop: ($3, 10 players) Hero is UTG+2
    2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, MP2 calls $8, 5 folds

    Flop: ($19, 2 players)
    Hero bets $14, MP2 calls $14

    Turn: ($47, 2 players)
    Hero ???

    villain was running like 16/12/3 over 130 hands (flop AF = 2; turn AF = inf, so he likes to float).
    I believe here we should c/c turn and c/f or c/c river depending on river card and villain's bet size.
    My question is: if we go for c/c turn and villain bet (for example) 3/4 pot on turn, wouldn't we be better of by b/f here that amount?
    The reason I don't like too much the c/c turn and c/f or c/c river is that an aggro villain most often bet big/push river after we c/c turn and we'll fold most of the time. Am I way off here?

    I don't think villain had a set as he would most often raise FLOP on that board. So his range is more like flush/FD/SD and something like 89s/T9s, JJ-TT or maybe A9s.
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    plz bet/fold turn, makes me if you c/c
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzzard
    plz bet/fold turn, makes me if you c/c
    Actually, without the Q of hearts I would clearly go b/f.
    But with the Q of hearts and the fact that villain seems to like to float I believe there is some value in c/c.
    If most of his range is the one I mentioned then, yes indeed we need to b/f. But I think this range is too narrow ...

    Edit: Won't we be turning our hand into a bluff by 2barriling against this villain?

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