$5 - AK with just over 10BB

[mikeneron]

Villian was 26/8 over 38 hands. If I was in any other position or someone had limped, I would just shove this. Am kicking myself for not shoving anyways. Villian could have made this call with a weaker ace or something like KQ or KJ even. If he has a medium pocket pair, well then at least by pushing we put the decision to calling that and risking a flip up to him. If I make a continuation bet on the flop and get called or raised, I am basically committed to the hand. Just wanted to illustrate that you don't always have to have <10 BB to shove...thoughts?

PokerStars , $5.00+$0.50 Tournament, t75/t150 Blinds (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (SB) (t1710)
BB (t3320)
UTG (t1150)
MP1 (t2500)
MP2 (t1613)
CO (t1800)
Button (t1407)

Preflop: Hero is SB with
5 folds, Hero raises to t450, BB calls t300

Flop: (t900) (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t1050, Hero folds

Total pot: t900

[taipan168]

I would shove this preflop 100% of the time and expect to get called reasonably often with hands that we dominate.

[Illfavor]

Once you raise with that stack, period, you are potcommitted. I also shove this every time. Pretty standard with <13 BBs.

[mikeneron]

So if you have more than 13 BB, are you standard raising? I guess it would depend on the opponent...looser they are I think the more you would want to push them. Apparently I don't get AK very often in this spot as I don't recall being in this situation before.

[taipan168]

So if you have more than 13 BB, are you standard raising? I guess it would depend on the opponent...looser they are I think the more you would want to push them. Apparently I don't get AK very often in this spot as I don't recall being in this situation before.

If I had >2000 chips in this spot I would make it 400 to go and hope that opp pushes over. If you just get flat called, you're still deep enough to make a c-bet and not be totally pot committed.

Anything less than 2000 chips (~13x BB) I am shoving preflop unless I had a specific read that BB was ultra aggressive and regularly shoved over standard raises.

[mukaka]

don't get stuck in the rules so much man.. think about the situations you're in and why there are such rules..

you are in the SB.. you don't have a made hand and you're likely gonna miss the flop.. you are OOP.. you raise he calls, you c-bet blind and you commit a lot of your stack because your stack size is not too big for post-flop and when he plays back you wanna cry..

next time think about your future bet sizes and remaining stack,etc. instead of those rules and I'm sure you'll make the right move..

[Illfavor]

don't get stuck in the rules so much man.. think about the situations you're in and why there are such rules..

you are in the SB.. you don't have a made hand and you're likely gonna miss the flop.. you are OOP.. you raise he calls, you c-bet blind and you commit a lot of your stack because your stack size is not too big for post-flop and when he plays back you wanna cry..

next time think about your future bet sizes and remaining stack,etc. instead of those rules and I'm sure you'll make the right move..

Well, in the heat of the moment, I'm thinking "I have 11 BBs and this is an autoshove," not why I should shove. And I'm certainly not gonna do some Cost-Benefit Analysis of shoving vs. std raising when the <14ish BB rule exists to make this exact situation easier.

But in retrospective analysis, yes it is important to understand why, in general, we shove with a short stack instead of std raising.

[mukaka]

Well, in the heat of the moment, I'm thinking "I have 11 BBs and this is an autoshove," not why I should shove. And I'm certainly not gonna do some Cost-Benefit Analysis of shoving vs. std raising when the <14ish BB rule exists to make this exact situation easier.

But in retrospective analysis, yes it is important to understand why, in general, we shove with a short stack instead of std raising.

I agree.. I'm also pushing as fast as I can instead of making some analysis but the problem is I didn't give this advice to you.. He seemed to have a problem with it and understanding is always better than memorizing.. I think if he had not memorized a 10xbb rule, he would shove here..

[Illfavor]

I think if he had not memorized a 10xbb rule, he would shove here..

Agreed.