Quote Originally Posted by mcatdog
Turn is a bet all day to get value from second pair and charge draws. All you checkers realize we have KK not QT right? I don't think you need to bet quite $11 on the turn, $8 or $9 is enough.

Edit: As played I call the river too.
i dont think were getting 3 streets of value here from a Q unless villain is really bad. i was always under the impression that the standard line for getting 2 streets is to check behind on dry boards like this so a) villain knows (or thinks he knows) that were scared of the A and is more likely to look up a bet on the river and b) to show the hand down so we know more about villains range.