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ATo, T high 2-flush flop, opp shoves over ($27)

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  1. #1

    Default ATo, T high 2-flush flop, opp shoves over ($27)

    Opp's stats were 53/16/4.5 over 32 hands. How often am I up against a flush draw, missed overcards, Tx or similar rather than a set, two pair or a limped monster pair?

    Poker Stars No Limit Holdem Tournament
    Blinds: t50/t100
    6 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: t2345
    UTG+1: t1550
    CO: t4045
    Button: t2445
    SB: t1570
    Hero: t1545

    Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A T
    UTG calls t100 (pot was t150), 3 folds, SB calls t50 (pot was t250), Hero checks.

    Flop: 2 T 8 (t300, 3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets t250, UTG raises to t2000, SB folds, Hero ????
  2. #2
    I'd call.. he seems like a ridiculous player and he might be doing this with hands we beat..
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    I wonder how he played up to that point. Did he limp a lot? I don't think many players would do that with hands that have you beat. He might have a FD with overs and you're technically behind, but you probably have to call here.

    I don't play many sng's lately, and not at that level. I like to push here PF usually. There's a very good chance they'll just fold, and you can add 300 chips to your stack - unless one of them plays tricky. Might very well be a leak.
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  4. #4
    I think that once this flop comes, you have to go with it after your initial bet.
    You're getting like 1.5:1, its a draw heavy board, and even if his shove is an overpair, as long as its not aces you're equity isn't terrible. You can't c/f this board so I like the lead bet, but b/f seems to nitty for me anyways.

    Villain shows up enough with hands like QJ, flush draws, worse tens, even OESD's here to make this call +EV IMO. He rarely if ever has 2 pair here.

    Oh and if he has a set, nh gg fire up another one.

    In game I take the 15 seconds and call FWIW
  5. #5
    Pot preflop

    As played call


  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    Pot preflop

    As played call
    If you pot preflop, means you are raising to 500, if you are called you are pretty much committed on the flop, no? If we are going to raise preflop I would rather just shove it I think.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    Pot preflop

    As played call
    If you pot preflop, means you are raising to 500, if you are called you are pretty much committed on the flop, no? If we are going to raise preflop I would rather just shove it I think.

    I favor shoving than potting it pre, avoids tough decisions.
  8. #8
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    As played, I call
    you have TPTK

    one blind level earlier I'd fold because people generally start to get more ridiculous at about this point
  9. #9
    Nothing wrong with the flop bet.

    I'd probably call.
  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    Pot preflop

    As played call
    If you pot preflop, means you are raising to 500, if you are called you are pretty much committed on the flop, no? If we are going to raise preflop I would rather just shove it I think.
    Pot is 300, I meant raise it by 300, maybe 250 is better, I dont think shoving is bad, but I think you still have enough depth to raise it without pushing

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