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    Default 45 man turbo for review, tourny trimmer used

    Can anyone review this for me. The 88 hand is probably questionable. I was sitting ok at the FT but finished 8th to bubble the money. I could have made it into the money easily but wasnt playing to min cash. Thanks




    The Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) was developed by JeffreyGB at http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com.

    ---Tournament Summary---
    $3.30 Turbo SNG: Finished 8/45 for $0
    Data for 66 hands.
    You played 10 hands (15.15%)
    You raised 8 times preflop (12.12%)

    3 2 MP1 (M = 50.00; f+f+F)
    K J UTG+1 (M = 50.00; f+F)
    3 A UTG (M = 50.00; F)
    J 4 BB (M = 50.00; c+f+c+f+r+c+f+F)
    8 Q SB (M = 32.89; f+f+c+r+f+f+F)
    4 Q BU (M = 32.56; f+p+f+f+f+F)
    A T CO (M = 32.56; f+f+f+f+F)
    T T MP2 (M = 32.56; r+p+f+F)
    Q 3 MP1 (M = 32.56; r+f+F)

    -----Hand 1-----
    Hero's M = 19.53
    PokerStars Game #19737993051: Tournament #103085824, $3.00+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2008/08/19 - 13:52:23 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '103085824 5' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 2: Stas78 (130 in chips)
    Seat 3: mojoeblow (1025 in chips)
    Seat 4: el11miento (2670 in chips)
    Seat 5: 3-Hattrick-3 (1470 in chips)
    Seat 6: rabid_dog_99 (1465 in chips)
    Seat 7: minigu (2035 in chips)
    Seat 8: amanda4e (1240 in chips)
    Seat 9: aggroxx (3465 in chips)
    mojoeblow: posts small blind 25
    el11miento: posts big blind 50
    Preflop: rabid_dog_99 dealt 8 8
    3-Hattrick-3: folds
    rabid_dog_99: calls 50
    minigu: calls 50
    amanda4e: calls 50
    aggroxx: raises 200 to 250

    Stas78: folds
    mojoeblow: calls 225
    el11miento: folds
    rabid_dog_99: calls 200
    minigu: folds
    amanda4e: folds
    Flop: Q 3 9
    mojoeblow: checks
    rabid_dog_99: checks
    aggroxx: checks
    Turn: 6
    mojoeblow: checks
    rabid_dog_99: checks
    aggroxx: checks
    River: 4
    mojoeblow: bets 250

    rabid_dog_99: folds
    aggroxx: folds
    Uncalled bet (250) returned to mojoeblow
    mojoeblow collected 900 from pot
    mojoeblow: doesn't show hand


    4 6 UTG (M = 16.20; F)
    J 9 BB (M = 16.20; c+f+f+f+c+r+f+F)
    7 6 SB (M = 15.53; f+c+f+r+f+f+F)
    6 5 BU (M = 15.20; f+f+f+c+f+f+F)

    -----Hand 2-----
    Hero's M = 7.60
    PokerStars Game #19738122626: Tournament #103085824, $3.00+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2008/08/19 - 13:57:34 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '103085824 5' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: the pope 84 (3065 in chips)
    Seat 2: Stas78 (130 in chips)
    Seat 3: mojoeblow (1700 in chips)
    Seat 4: el11miento (2495 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 5: 3-Hattrick-3 (1845 in chips)
    Seat 6: rabid_dog_99 (1140 in chips)
    Seat 7: minigu (2035 in chips)
    Seat 8: amanda4e (1090 in chips)
    Seat 9: aggroxx (3065 in chips)
    amanda4e: posts small blind 50
    aggroxx: posts big blind 100
    Preflop: rabid_dog_99 dealt 4 4
    the pope 84: folds
    Stas78: raises 30 to 130 and is all-in

    mojoeblow: calls 130
    el11miento: folds
    3-Hattrick-3: folds
    el11miento has returned
    rabid_dog_99: raises 1010 to 1140 and is all-in

    minigu: folds
    amanda4e: folds
    aggroxx: raises 1925 to 3065 and is all-in

    mojoeblow: folds
    Uncalled bet (1925) returned to aggroxx
    Flop: 2 6 3
    Turn: 5
    River: 2
    Showdown:
    aggroxx: shows A K (a pair of Deuces)
    rabid_dog_99: shows 4 4 (a straight, Deuce to Six)
    rabid_dog_99 collected 2020 from side pot
    Stas78: shows K A (a pair of Deuces)
    rabid_dog_99 collected 570 from main pot


    2 2 MP2 (M = 17.27; f+r+f+F)
    K 5 MP1 (M = 17.27; r+f+F)
    5 2 UTG+1 (M = 17.27; f+F)
    3 9 UTG (M = 17.27; F)
    A 8 BB (M = 11.51; f+f+f+f+r+f+F)
    T 2 SB (M = 10.84; f+f+f+p+f+F)
    4 2 BU (M = 10.51; r+f+f+f+F)
    K 7 CO (M = 10.51; f+f+f+F)
    K Q MP1 (M = 10.51; f+f+F)
    Q 4 MP2 (M = 10.51; f+f+f+F)
    3 8 UTG+1 (M = 7.88; f+F)

    -----Hand 3-----
    Hero's M = 7.88
    PokerStars Game #19738392909: Tournament #103085824, $3.00+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/08/19 - 14:08:51 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '103085824 5' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: the pope 84 (840 in chips)
    Seat 3: jerky178 (2750 in chips)
    Seat 4: el11miento (2845 in chips)
    Seat 5: 3-Hattrick-3 (1670 in chips)
    Seat 6: rabid_dog_99 (2365 in chips)
    Seat 7: minigu (2660 in chips)
    Seat 8: amanda4e (690 in chips)
    Seat 9: aggroxx (5435 in chips)
    el11miento: posts small blind 100
    3-Hattrick-3: posts big blind 200
    Preflop: rabid_dog_99 dealt 9 9
    rabid_dog_99: raises 2165 to 2365 and is all-in

    minigu: folds
    amanda4e: folds
    aggroxx: folds
    the pope 84: folds
    jerky178: folds
    el11miento: folds
    3-Hattrick-3: folds
    Uncalled bet (2165) returned to rabid_dog_99
    rabid_dog_99 collected 500 from pot
    rabid_dog_99: doesn't show hand


    A 3 BB (M = 8.88; c+f+f+p+f+f+f+F)

    -----Hand 4-----
    Hero's M = 8.22
    PokerStars Game #19738429725: Tournament #103085824, $3.00+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/08/19 - 14:10:24 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '103085824 5' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: the pope 84 (1980 in chips)
    Seat 3: jerky178 (2750 in chips)
    Seat 4: el11miento (2745 in chips)
    Seat 5: 3-Hattrick-3 (1370 in chips)
    Seat 6: rabid_dog_99 (2465 in chips)
    Seat 7: minigu (1820 in chips)
    Seat 8: amanda4e (690 in chips)
    Seat 9: aggroxx (5435 in chips)
    rabid_dog_99: posts small blind 100
    minigu: posts big blind 200
    Preflop: rabid_dog_99 dealt 6 K
    amanda4e: folds
    aggroxx: folds
    the pope 84: folds
    jerky178: folds
    el11miento: folds
    3-Hattrick-3: folds
    rabid_dog_99: raises 2265 to 2465 and is all-in

    minigu: calls 1620 and is all-in

    Uncalled bet (645) returned to rabid_dog_99
    Flop: 8 7 2
    Turn: J
    River: K
    Showdown:
    rabid_dog_99: shows 6 K (a pair of Kings)
    minigu: shows A 9 (high card Ace)
    rabid_dog_99 collected 3640 from pot


    4 4 BU (M = 14.28; f+c+f+f+F)
    3 Q CO (M = 9.02; f+f+f+F)
    8 K MP1 (M = 8.97; r+f+F)
    4 9 UTG (M = 8.47; F)
    T 9 BB (M = 8.42; f+f+f+r+f+f+f+F)
    4 7 SB (M = 7.97; f+f+r+f+f+f+F)
    7 T BU (M = 7.72; f+f+r+f+f+F)
    7 6 CO (M = 4.79; f+f+f+p+F)
    J 8 MP1 (M = 4.92; p+f+F)
    4 T UTG (M = 5.05; F)
    2 7 BB (M = 5.01; p+f+f+f+r+F)
    8 T SB (M = 4.45; f+r+c+f+F)
    7 T BU (M = 4.29; f+f+F)
    Q 9 CO (M = 4.26; f+F)
    4 T UTG (M = 4.22; F)
    4 2 BB (M = 4.19; f+p+f+f+F)
    2 3 SB (M = 3.60; f+c+f+F)

    -----Hand 5-----
    Hero's M = 3.29
    PokerStars Game #19738681637: Tournament #103085824, $3.00+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2008/08/19 - 14:20:57 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '103085824 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 2: rabid_dog_99 (2385 in chips)
    Seat 4: oldstef (4495 in chips)
    Seat 5: MeCountCardz (7085 in chips)
    Seat 7: quenting31 (17775 in chips)
    Seat 9: murraka (3940 in chips)
    All players post the ante 25
    oldstef: posts small blind 200
    MeCountCardz: posts big blind 400
    Preflop: rabid_dog_99 dealt A 4
    quenting31: folds
    murraka: folds
    rabid_dog_99: raises 1960 to 2360 and is all-in

    oldstef: folds
    MeCountCardz: folds
    Uncalled bet (1960) returned to rabid_dog_99
    rabid_dog_99 collected 1125 from pot
    rabid_dog_99: doesn't show hand



    -----Hand 6-----
    Hero's M = 4.26
    PokerStars Game #19738691026: Tournament #103085824, $3.00+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2008/08/19 - 14:21:20 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '103085824 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 2: rabid_dog_99 (3085 in chips)
    Seat 4: oldstef (4270 in chips)
    Seat 5: MeCountCardz (6660 in chips)
    Seat 7: quenting31 (17750 in chips)
    Seat 9: murraka (3915 in chips)
    All players post the ante 25
    MeCountCardz: posts small blind 200
    quenting31: posts big blind 400
    Preflop: rabid_dog_99 dealt J J
    murraka: folds
    rabid_dog_99: raises 2660 to 3060 and is all-in

    oldstef: calls 3060
    MeCountCardz: folds
    quenting31: calls 2660
    Flop: 2 3 9
    quenting31: bets 1200

    oldstef: calls 1185 and is all-in

    Uncalled bet (15) returned to quenting31
    Turn: 2
    River: 3
    Showdown:
    quenting31: shows A 9 (two pair, Nines and Threes)
    oldstef: shows Q A (two pair, Threes and Deuces)
    quenting31 collected 2370 from side pot
    rabid_dog_99: shows J J (two pair, Jacks and Threes)
    rabid_dog_99 collected 9505 from main pot



    -----Hand 7-----
    Hero's M = 7.04
    PokerStars Game #19738714746: Tournament #103085824, $3.00+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2008/08/19 - 14:22:19 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '103085824 2' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: murraka (3890 in chips)
    Seat 2: jerky178 (9600 in chips)
    Seat 3: MeCountCardz (6435 in chips)
    Seat 4: rabid_dog_99 (9505 in chips)
    Seat 5: el11miento (3340 in chips)
    Seat 6: heidiho77 (2390 in chips)
    Seat 7: quenting31 (15850 in chips)
    Seat 8: aggroxx (12695 in chips)
    Seat 9: amanda4e (3795 in chips)
    All players post the ante 50
    amanda4e: posts small blind 300
    murraka: posts big blind 600
    Preflop: rabid_dog_99 dealt K A
    jerky178: folds
    MeCountCardz: folds
    rabid_dog_99: raises 1200 to 1800

    el11miento: folds
    heidiho77: folds
    quenting31: folds
    aggroxx: folds
    amanda4e: folds
    murraka: folds
    Uncalled bet (1200) returned to rabid_dog_99
    rabid_dog_99 collected 1950 from pot
    rabid_dog_99: doesn't show hand


    8 5 UTG+1 (M = 8.00; c+F)
    J 6 UTG (M = 7.97; F)

    -----Hand 8-----
    Hero's M = 7.93
    PokerStars Game #19738758560: Tournament #103085824, $3.00+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2008/08/19 - 14:24:08 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '103085824 2' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: murraka (2840 in chips)
    Seat 2: jerky178 (8250 in chips)
    Seat 3: MeCountCardz (5045 in chips)
    Seat 4: rabid_dog_99 (10705 in chips)
    Seat 5: el11miento (3190 in chips)
    Seat 6: heidiho77 (5880 in chips)
    Seat 7: quenting31 (15700 in chips)
    Seat 8: aggroxx (12545 in chips)
    Seat 9: amanda4e (3345 in chips)
    All players post the ante 50
    MeCountCardz: posts small blind 300

    rabid_dog_99: posts big blind 600
    Preflop: rabid_dog_99 dealt J T
    el11miento: folds
    heidiho77: folds
    quenting31: folds
    aggroxx: folds
    amanda4e: folds
    murraka: raises 2190 to 2790 and is all-in

    jerky178: folds
    MeCountCardz: folds
    rabid_dog_99: calls 2190
    Flop: 4 K K
    Turn: K
    River: 2
    Showdown:
    rabid_dog_99: shows J T (three of a kind, Kings)
    murraka: shows Q 5 (three of a kind, Kings - Queen kicker)
    murraka collected 6330 from pot


    K 4 SB (M = 5.83; f+f+f+f+f+f+p+F)
    3 7 BU (M = 5.57; f+f+c+f+f+f+F)
    K 8 CO (M = 5.74; f+f+f+f+F)
    6 4 MP2 (M = 5.70; f+r+f+F)
    T 2 MP1 (M = 4.60; f+f+F)
    Q J UTG+1 (M = 4.57; f+F)
    J 2 UTG (M = 4.54; F)
    K 3 BB (M = 4.51; f+f+f+f+r+f+f+F)
    7 7 SB (M = 3.98; r+r+f+f+f+f+F)
    A 8 BU (M = 3.70; f+f+f+f+f+F)
    9 3 CO (M = 3.67; p+f+f+f+F)

    -----Hand 9-----
    Hero's M = 2.42
    PokerStars Game #19738946174: Tournament #103085824, $3.00+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (600/1200) - 2008/08/19 - 14:31:59 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '103085824 2' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: murraka (10580 in chips)
    Seat 2: jerky178 (9350 in chips)
    Seat 3: MeCountCardz (5895 in chips)
    Seat 4: rabid_dog_99 (5815 in chips)
    Seat 6: heidiho77 (1045 in chips)
    Seat 7: quenting31 (5355 in chips)
    Seat 8: aggroxx (22990 in chips)
    Seat 9: amanda4e (6470 in chips)
    All players post the ante 75
    aggroxx: posts small blind 600
    amanda4e: posts big blind 1200
    Preflop: rabid_dog_99 dealt Q J
    murraka: folds
    jerky178: folds
    MeCountCardz: folds
    rabid_dog_99: raises 4540 to 5740 and is all-in

    heidiho77: calls 970 and is all-in

    quenting31: folds
    aggroxx: folds
    amanda4e: folds
    Uncalled bet (4540) returned to rabid_dog_99
    Flop: 3 K 9
    Turn: 6
    River: 7
    Showdown:
    rabid_dog_99: shows Q J (high card King)
    rabid_dog_99 collected 460 from side pot
    heidiho77: shows T K (a pair of Kings)
    heidiho77 collected 4110 from main pot


    4 J MP1 (M = 2.08; f+p+F)

    -----Hand 10-----
    Hero's M = 2.05
    PokerStars Game #19738975011: Tournament #103085824, $3.00+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (600/1200) - 2008/08/19 - 14:33:12 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '103085824 2' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: murraka (9230 in chips)
    Seat 2: jerky178 (9200 in chips)
    Seat 3: MeCountCardz (8145 in chips)
    Seat 4: rabid_dog_99 (4925 in chips)
    Seat 6: heidiho77 (4035 in chips)
    Seat 7: quenting31 (5205 in chips)
    Seat 8: aggroxx (22240 in chips)
    Seat 9: amanda4e (4520 in chips)
    All players post the ante 75
    murraka: posts small blind 600
    jerky178: posts big blind 1200
    Preflop: rabid_dog_99 dealt Q K
    MeCountCardz: folds
    rabid_dog_99: raises 3650 to 4850 and is all-in

    heidiho77: folds
    quenting31: folds
    aggroxx: folds
    amanda4e: folds
    murraka: raises 4305 to 9155 and is all-in

    jerky178: folds
    Uncalled bet (4305) returned to murraka
    Flop: 8 A 7
    Turn: J
    River: 5
    Showdown:
    murraka: shows 7 7 (three of a kind, Sevens)
    rabid_dog_99: shows Q K (high card Ace)
    murraka collected 11500 from pot



    The Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) was developed by JeffreyGB at http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com.
  2. #2
    {From SNG Tourney Tactics - since it is >2 tables}
  3. #3
    Hand 1 - I don't mind a limp here, but your play wasn't bad.

    Hand 2 - Technically a sound play here. Good hand.

    Hand 3 - You've been playing aggressive with your stack this whole time, I'd just open-shove here. People may have less respect for you, and you have a good chance to get a call from an AT-AQ & KJ-KQ.

    Hand 8 - Pretty spewy here from a mid-pos AI. You have Jack-High. Q2o is better than your hand. Fold this and wait for a better position to be the raiser.

    Overall a standard turbo game. GG[/list]

    PocketFives - allLiving
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  4. #4
    In turbos the blinds get so big, that there's a ton of chips in the pot on every hand. You have to be more aggressive than this, otherwise you aren't getting your fair share of the dead money.

    before hand 1: A T CO (M = 32.56; f+f+f+f+F) very standard blind steal

    Hand 1: Limping isn't horrible here, I'd just open-fold anything lower than 88 though. Once you get raised you have to fold, calling 200 more to set mine with your stack is massive spew.

    Hand 2: looks fine

    A 8 BB (M = 11.51; f+f+f+f+r+f+F) : folding this to a button raise is pretty gross, I'd either shove or call depending on stack sizes, with an M of 11.5 I'd shove.

    K Q MP1 (M = 10.51; f+f+F): usually I steal with this from MP1, your stack size kind of sucks for a steal though, you could consider minraising so you don't pot commit yourself. Folding is better than 3x and fold to reraise though.

    Hand 3: good

    Hand 4: good

    Q 9 CO (M = 4.26; f+F): this could be a shove, it depends on the stack sizes of the people behind you.

    Hand 8: easy call

    A 8 BU (M = 3.70; f+f+f+f+f+F): this is a terrible fold with your stack size

    Hands 9 and 10: seem fine
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by allLiving
    Hand 8 - Pretty spewy here from a mid-pos AI. You have Jack-High. Q2o is better than your hand. Fold this and wait for a better position to be the raiser.
    This is completely wrong. Can you come up with a range of hands for MP such that we don't have odds to call in the BB getting 2:1? Calling is better than folding by almost an entire big blind. "Waiting for a better spot" isn't even valid because we have more than enough chips to take a hit here.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by allLiving
    You have Jack-High. Q2o is better than your hand.
    Also this comment shows a lack of understanding of what hands are worth. Q2o is better than JTo in a heads-up preflop all-in, that doesn't mean it's a better hand in general. JTo has WAY more equity vs MP's range than Q2o has.

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