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    Default eh.. not sure about this one $30+3

    PokerStars Game #20301886699: Tournament #107408057, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/09/10 16:18:27 ET
    Table '107408057 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: JoeyD63 (2714 in chips)
    Seat 2: haefies (2023 in chips)
    Seat 4: Pythomunoz (630 in chips)
    Seat 7: Hero (1478 in chips)
    Seat 8: nrthside3 (6655 in chips)
    Pythomunoz: posts small blind 100
    Hero: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [3s 2c]
    nrthside3: folds
    JoeyD63: folds
    haefies: folds
    Pythomunoz: raises 430 to 630 and is all-in
    nrthside3 is disconnected
    nrthside3 is connected
    Hero?
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    2:1 - he has a random hand
    easy call

    Actually you need exactly 2:1 or more to make this a good call, you get a little less, but I would still call... it's a thing of the principle.
    + good advertisement to the players on your right who don't know pot odds.

    ARR
    I just realized how short you are... That really is a bad spot. In that case I would go with the math, and hope you get to steal in the next hand.

    I think it's not so bad to make a slight -EV move here by calling if you got the right stack because you get a little extra value by getting rid of another player when you win.
    But I'm kind of lost now too. I'm curious what others have to say.
  3. #3
    Are there antes? Doesn't look like there is.

    Either way I think this is a call.

    (math fixed)
    No antes: Pot is 100+200+530=$830
    Cost to call: $430
    Odds: 1.93:1

    If there were antes: Pot is 100+200+25+25+25+25+25+530=$955
    Cost to call: $430
    Odds: 2.22:1
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeneron
    No antes: Pot is 100+200+630=$930
    You counted 100 twice - villain was in the SB.
    So it's slightly less than 2:1.
  5. #5
    There is also an ICM effect to take into account here guys, I suspect that this is a (close) fold.
  6. #6
    If it was 4-handed, does this call become easier? I figure since it's 5 handed and I do suck out, I'm still on the bubble.
  7. #7
    My mistake...fixed the math in my previous post. I think I am folding this one. If we had a stack of closer to $3K, then I think a call would be more in order.
  8. #8
    I guess you'd have to be pretty sure he was on ATC for this to be ok w/o antes. I think our stack size is irrelevant in this spot, but I could be wrong

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