Pretty flop $30+3

[mxiu]

Villain is bad.

PokerStars Game #20305864886: Tournament #107444744, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/09/10 19:01:16 ET
Table '107444744 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: MoneyZoR (1450 in chips)
Seat 2: Lokhup (1890 in chips)
Seat 3: tolhol (2090 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero (4505 in chips)
Seat 7: keisersose22 (1405 in chips)
Seat 8: yotekiller (1250 in chips)
Seat 9: Hernanu2 (910 in chips)
MoneyZoR: posts small blind 15
Lokhup: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [As Ks]
tolhol: folds
Hero: raises 90 to 120
keisersose22: calls 120
yotekiller: folds
Hernanu2: folds
MoneyZoR: folds
Lokhup: folds
*** FLOP *** [Js 7d Ts]
Hero: bets 210
keisersose22: calls 210
*** TURN *** [Js 7d Ts] [5h]
Hero?

[hangchiong]

ill check/fold here.cant really fire a 2nd barrel oop here,then again
its 30dollar buy in.so no idea how they play up there.

[taipan168]

If opp has been aggressive postflop, I'd check with the intention of check-raising, although with that many outs leading can't be bad at all.

As played, if opp is bad, on the turn I check and call with odds rather than firing again.

ill check/fold here.

Read the board again, we have up to 18 outs...

[mxiu]

Is a shove terrible?

[fjuanl]

I would lead/call shove (or just shove). Even if you can't get top pair to fold, you still have 35-38% equity. With a board this drawy against a bad opponent, you could be up against a big range of hands, many of which fold to 2nd barrels. I really hate check/calling because we are still in good shape and even against a bad player you still have a lot of fold equity

and this:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

6,248 games 0.005 secs 1,249,600 games/sec

Board: Js Ts 7d 5h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.472% 49.47% 00.00% 3091 0.00 { AsKs }
Hand 1: 50.528% 50.53% 00.00% 3157 0.00 { JJ-TT, 77, AQs-ATs, KTs+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, AQo-ATo, KTo+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o }

[KoRnholio]

Check with the intention of calling a small or even medium sized bet. If he's bad he is likely to bet small enough and/or pay us off when we hit often enough to see a river even out of position.

[fjuanl]

I think it would be a disaster to go check/check on the turn and then you blank the river. If you check the turn its almost a dead giveaway that you dont have Jx or an overpair, so you'll get no respect on the river...forcing you to check/fold

[fulksy]

personally i bet/call, i think you have quite a bit of fe against his stack, and if you get it all in you have tons of outs he could also be chasing a flush/straight and be drawing dead.

[drmcboy]

FIRE MON capeetan

[hangchiong]

[hangchiong wrote:
ill check/fold here.

Read the board again, we have up to 18 outs...]

sorry,didnt see the spade draw,he might be on the spade draw himself
check/check on the turn might lead us to a showdown which is 50/50,but i would think check raising here would be a good option.[/quote]