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5/10 - KQs in 3bet pot turns top two - 200bb deep

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    Default 5/10 - KQs in 3bet pot turns top two - 200bb deep

    Villain is a reg running 19/14/2.2, 3bets 5.5%, cbets 75% (80% after 3betting over a smallish sample). We have some history and he might think I'm bluffy/spewy. The fish at this table is UTG who's been limping and folding to my iso raises a lot. I've been very active for the 10 or so orbits I've been at the table but haven't shown anything down.

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    Hero (MP) ($1952)
    CO ($2000)
    Button ($2035)
    SB ($2615)
    BB ($2057)
    UTG ($2146.75)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with Q, K
    UTG calls $10, Hero raises to $45, 1 fold, Button raises to $160, 3 folds, Hero calls $115

    Flop: ($345) 10, Q, 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button checks

    Turn: ($345) K (2 players)
    Hero bets $280, Button raises to $700, Hero...
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    What does his flop check mean?
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    What does his flop check mean?
    AJ makes the most sense I feel like. Though given that you're deep, I can see him checking through wtih most/all draws: J9, flush draws even.

    This might be mega nitty, but I prob just dump this. There's no good way to handle this OOP and sooooooo many river cards are just gonna be brutal.
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    Oh and I prob fold pre to the 3-bet pre, OOP, given he only 3-bets 5.5%. I'd call if he had been getting out of line more recently though from the button.

    Not really the type of hand I wanna be playing OOP deep with. We can't even jam our draws properly this deep.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    What does his flop check mean?
    Well, I think it means he has a medium strength hand, something with some equity but that he doesn't feel comfortable stacking off with on the flop.
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    seems like a real easy fold pre

    i guess call here and check something on the river, u can still hit a fh imo
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    his most likely hand is a small flush so you should probably fold
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    afaik you can 4bet preflop if you feel like it. I definitely wouldn't call anyways. As played I fold also.
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    sucks but i just muck this preflop 80% of the time

    as played i think you have to fold
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    haven t read replies but I'm assuming you're asking whether to shove or just call?

    I shove. If he has AJ or J9 I just curse the gods.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    wow just read replies maybe i sux at teh pokerz
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    I shove. If he has AJ or J9 I just curse the gods.
    You see the flush right?

    This isn't the best time to just jam 200bb's cause "he checked through the flop, so can't have the flush" type thing.

    Though the more I see posts like these, the more I think checking through flops with FD's is pretty sick, since it gets like zero zero respect when you spike it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    I shove. If he has AJ or J9 I just curse the gods.
    You see the flush right?

    This isn't the best time to just jam 200bb's cause "he checked through the flop, so can't have the flush" type thing.

    Though the more I see posts like these, the more I think checking through flops with FD's is pretty sick, since it gets like zero zero respect when you spike it.
    Yeah, fast play is the new slow play, and checking draws is the new jamming draws
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    For your interest, he had KK and you can't have my sn.

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