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    Default Button steal

    Clearly i butchered this.
    All i can remember about opp is he had an 'intellipoker' avatar and posted his blind in MP about 20 hands before.

    $1/$2 No Limit Holdem
    8 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG LSP16 ($195.05)
    UTG+1 scorpionfish ($200.00)
    MP1 DON747 ($290.40)
    MP2 Schü Black ($121.75)
    CO moise51 ($249.35)
    BTN Hero ($197.00)
    SB keez86 ($90.30)
    BB jayla ($98.75)

    Pre-flop: ($3, 8 players) Hero is BTN
    5 folds, Hero raises to $6, keez86 calls $5, 1 fold

    Flop: ($14, 2 players)
    keez86 checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($14, 2 players)
    keez86 checks, Hero bets $8, keez86 calls $8

    River: ($30, 2 players)
    keez86 checks, Hero bets $18, keez86 raises to $46, Hero calls $28...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    All i can remember about opp is he had an 'intellipoker' avatar and posted his blind in MP about 20 hands before.
    Did I backdoor you?

    I think the hand is fine. Probably fold the river, but I don't hate a call.
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    looks like a trivial river fold
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanglow
    looks like a trivial river fold
    ZOMG WE HAVE TRIPS WITH TOP KICKER.

    He probably doesn't have a set or straight. The backdoor flush is the only likley hand that beats us. If he has it, his river c/r is pretty ghey.

    I call bets like this all the time and I'm certainly not going broke over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Quote Originally Posted by Deanglow
    looks like a trivial river fold
    ZOMG WE HAVE TRIPS WITH TOP KICKER.

    He probably doesn't have a set or straight. The backdoor flush is the only likley hand that beats us. If he has it, his river c/r is pretty ghey.

    I call bets like this all the time and I'm certainly not going broke over it.
    do we thinks its pretty much 99% a backdoor, or can he occasionally have 4x whatever that 4x ever is.
    Im going on the assumption this player is not good either, plus its a little pot
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    do we thinks its pretty much 99% a backdoor
    75%ish backdoor. Maybe less, maybe more. Depends on what I think of him, you're certainly playing a guessing game here.
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    this c/r has back door written all over it

    i hate the big bet on the river btw... i'm value towning Kx for a lot less than $18
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    so not folding

    bet like a sissy on turn and a 4 calls then he gets it in his head that he's value towning trips crap kicker on river
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy
    so not folding

    bet like a sissy on turn and a 4 calls then he gets it in his head that he's value towning trips crap kicker on river
    it's more likely that intelli poker hit a backdoor or flopped a set and fuct up the line vs. case 4 in a HU BvB situation
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    how is 18 a big bet


    i'd bet more and fold to a raise or bet this amount and call. seems like he can be raising worse for value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    how is 18 a big bet


    i'd bet more and fold to a raise or bet this amount and call. seems like he can be raising worse for value.
    We should be assuming that villain has a 2nd best hand (Kx, because this is the most frequent scenario) and bet accordingly. Our line (including more than half pot bet on river) + board doesn't seem to be worried about kings or trips too, which shows a lot of strength and may blow off random Kx's.

    Value towning this to more of a 1/3 pot river bet may be a better idea. Forget what our hand is for a moment and let's concentrate on getting the most out of villain after a very bad river card for him (assuming villain has weaker ldo).
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    how can you fold after your river bet size
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    ^^^
    come again? more words req.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    seems like he can be raising worse for value.
    54 is the only worse hand i can think of that might c/r for value.

    I can't help but think villain has 66 and just plain out sucks. Avatar has something to do with this hand guess...
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    Hand seems played OK.

    I'm leaning fold but wouldn't be upset by a call.
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    I mean I just really dislike this river bet size because I flat out dont think it opens villain's calling range up compared to something bigger. On top of this it's almost small enough to induce a bluff-raise here which is kinda gross because normally I'd just like to bet/fold the river.

    $25-28 seems good and you can fold to a raise
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    how can you fold after your river bet size
    i didnt, but i see what you are saying in your later post too, and fully agree hence why i feel i butchered it but wanted to call the c/r because i havent really represented a hand.

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