$12 180 Review Please

[Sprayed]

I think I'm missing a ton of spots late. I'm not playing for first when I get to the FT. I am finishing 3-5 a lot and this is telling me that I'm not aggressive enough and building a stack to win. What do you think?

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[mcatdog]

I don't think you missed that many spots.

Hand 2 - I don't complete the SB with this junk.
Q J MP2 (M = 5.64; f+f+f+F) - This is pretty tight, what are the stacks behind you?
Hands 16, 20 - Just shove preflop.
Hand 22 - Goodness gracious don't complete the SB, this is a huge leak.
A J CO (M = 7.94; f+f+r+F) - Misclick?
Hand 23 - At least call the flop!

[Sprayed]

I don't think you missed that many spots.

Hand 2 - I don't complete the SB with this junk.
Q J MP2 (M = 5.64; f+f+f+F) - This is pretty tight, what are the stacks behind you?
Hands 16, 20 - Just shove preflop.
Hand 22 - Goodness gracious don't complete the SB, this is a huge leak.
A J CO (M = 7.94; f+f+r+F) - Misclick?
Hand 23 - At least call the flop!

The AJs hand is one of those situations that I thought that I wasn't playing aggressive enough at the FT. Looking back, it's a push over the raise.

Here is the QJs hand:

Table '109206829 9' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: IronMan000 (3355 in chips)
Seat 2: lachgas123 (12265 in chips)
Seat 3: TheCoalman (7385 in chips)
Seat 4: Sprayed (3810 in chips)
Seat 5: om131 (10360 in chips)
Seat 6: rub-1 (2254 in chips)
Seat 7: pokerrant77 (2968 in chips)
Seat 8: Luminius (5700 in chips)
Seat 9: moshone (5775 in chips)
IronMan000: posts the ante 25
lachgas123: posts the ante 25
TheCoalman: posts the ante 25
Sprayed: posts the ante 25
om131: posts the ante 25
rub-1: posts the ante 25
pokerrant77: posts the ante 25
Luminius: posts the ante 25
moshone: posts the ante 25
Luminius: posts small blind 150
moshone: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Sprayed [Qc Jc]
IronMan000: folds
lachgas123: folds
TheCoalman: folds
Sprayed: folds
om131: folds
rub-1: raises 1929 to 2229 and is all-in
pokerrant77: raises 714 to 2943 and is all-in
Luminius: folds
moshone: folds
Uncalled bet (714) returned to pokerrant77
*** FLOP *** [5h 4d 8s]
*** TURN *** [5h 4d 8s] [As]
*** RIVER *** [5h 4d 8s As] [5s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
rub-1: shows [8d Jd] (two pair, Eights and Fives)
pokerrant77: shows [6h 6s] (two pair, Sixes and Fives)
rub-1 collected 5133 from pot

So you are saying that this is a shove? Should I be shoving more often in these situations with this stack size. I guess I rely too much on 10bbs for when to shove. I gather from what you are saying from this hand and hand 20 that you are suggesting that I should be shoving more often when <10M.

Hand 23 was weak, but I didn't want to bleed chips since I had an 8M stack so I folded.

Another hand from the FT in this tourney that I folded and think that it's a little weak. Is this a shove? At the time I wasn't sure of slav4o's play by smooth calling and mucked it. But I don't think that I can fold here.

PokerStars Game #20539169417: Tournament #109206829, $11+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2008/09/19 20:23:04 ET
Table '109206829 12' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Sprayed (52718 in chips)
Seat 3: troballz (107903 in chips)
Seat 4: bboy93rx7 (7547 in chips)
Seat 6: Knight69 (14454 in chips)
Seat 7: TJ1105 (7650 in chips)
Seat 8: PHX IGNITION (29218 in chips)
Seat 9: slav4o (50510 in chips)
Sprayed: posts the ante 300
troballz: posts the ante 300
bboy93rx7: posts the ante 300
Knight69: posts the ante 300
TJ1105: posts the ante 300
PHX IGNITION: posts the ante 300
slav4o: posts the ante 300
troballz: posts small blind 1500
bboy93rx7: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Sprayed [8s 8h]
Knight69: raises 11154 to 14154 and is all-in
TJ1105: folds
PHX IGNITION: folds
slav4o: calls 14154
Sprayed: folds
troballz: folds
bboy93rx7: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kd Qc Jd]
*** TURN *** [Kd Qc Jd] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [Kd Qc Jd Jc] [9h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Knight69: shows [Ah Th] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
slav4o: shows [6c 6s] (two pair, Jacks and Sixes)
Knight69 collected 34908 from pot

Thanks for the review!

[mcatdog]

Yeah folding the QJs there is bad. With up to 15 BB I'm usually shoving or folding, occasionally I'll make a small raise with air or a monster but usually it's shove or fold, especially in a turbo. With hands that don't really want a call but still have good equity when called (small pairs, big suited connectors like QJs) shoving is easily the best play.

Shoving the 88 would be ridiculously bad at a final table with a whole bunch of stacks that you cover. The last thing you want is to gamble with another big stack. I think I'd need JJ+ to go all-in here, folding TT and AK.

[givememyleg]

Hand 22 - Goodness gracious don't complete the SB, this is a huge leak.

This is something I do alllllllll the time, I guess it's just so tempting with the huge pot odds. What do you limp here?

[Sprayed]

Hand 22 - Goodness gracious don't complete the SB, this is a huge leak.

This is something I do alllllllll the time, I guess it's just so tempting with the huge pot odds. What do you limp here?

This was my thought. I was thinking that if he wanted to limp a big hand and let me see a flop with a marginal connecting hand, maybe I could flop big.

[Sprayed]

Shoving the 88 would be ridiculously bad at a final table with a whole bunch of stacks that you cover. The last thing you want is to gamble with another big stack. I think I'd need JJ+ to go all-in here, folding TT and AK.

Folding TT and AK,? I don't think I could fold AK and TT in this spot. To me, this 88 hand was similar to the AJs hand were I folded. What I am trying to figure out is whether I should be acquiring the chips to win this thing when short handed at the FT. Time after time I get to the FT in these 180s only to come-up short because my FT play is similar to hands that I listed. I'm not sure if my FT play is correct or if I should be taking these flips. The blinds increase so fast and they are so big at the FT, I figure that I need to be gambling a little more at the FT. Here's the AJs hand, and yes I'm aware that the results have nothing to do with whether to get my chips in or not.

PokerStars Game #20539182807: Tournament #109206829, $11+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2008/09/19 20:23:40 ET
Table '109206829 12' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Sprayed (52418 in chips)
Seat 3: troballz (106103 in chips)
Seat 4: bboy93rx7 (4247 in chips)
Seat 6: Knight69 (34908 in chips)
Seat 7: TJ1105 (7350 in chips)
Seat 8: PHX IGNITION (28918 in chips)
Seat 9: slav4o (36056 in chips)
Sprayed: posts the ante 300
troballz: posts the ante 300
bboy93rx7: posts the ante 300
Knight69: posts the ante 300
TJ1105: posts the ante 300
PHX IGNITION: posts the ante 300
slav4o: posts the ante 300
bboy93rx7: posts small blind 1500
Knight69: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Sprayed [Ah Jh]
TJ1105: folds
PHX IGNITION: folds
slav4o: raises 3000 to 6000
Sprayed: folds
troballz: folds
bboy93rx7 said, "good luck guys it was fun"
bboy93rx7: calls 2447 and is all-in
Knight69: calls 3000
*** FLOP *** [3h 5h 4d]
Knight69: checks
slav4o: bets 12000
Knight69: folds
Uncalled bet (12000) returned to slav4o
*** TURN *** [3h 5h 4d] [3d]
*** RIVER *** [3h 5h 4d 3d] [6h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
slav4o: shows [8h 8s] (two pair, Eights and Threes)
bboy93rx7 said, "gg"
slav4o collected 4106 from side pot
bboy93rx7: shows [Ts As] (a pair of Threes)
slav4o collected 13941 from main pot