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Set on Turn,4 card flush draw

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  1. #1

    Default Set on Turn,4 card flush draw

    Full Tilt Poker Game #8157929976: $2 + $0.25 Sit & Go (62058277), Table 1 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:21:00 ET - 2008/09/20
    Seat 2: enno1975 (2,960)
    Seat 4: pokergirl2065 (2,970)
    Seat 5: sgallion (995)
    Seat 6: Sads2 (3,360)
    Seat 7: hangchiong (1,390)
    Seat 9: DeeJay54 (1,825)
    DeeJay54 posts the small blind of 30
    enno1975 posts the big blind of 60
    The button is in seat #7
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to hangchiong [4d 4h]
    pokergirl2065 raises to 120
    sgallion folds
    Sads2 has 15 seconds left to act
    Sads2 folds
    hangchiong calls 120
    DeeJay54 calls 90
    enno1975 calls 60
    *** FLOP *** [8s 6s Qs]
    DeeJay54 checks
    enno1975 checks
    pokergirl2065 checks
    hangchiong checks
    *** TURN *** [8s 6s Qs] [4s]
    DeeJay54 has 15 seconds left to act
    DeeJay54 bets 400
    enno1975 calls 400
    pokergirl2065 folds
    hangchiong ???
  2. #2
    Firstly, considering your stack size I would fold preflop. You can only win ~12x the chips you need to call so in my books the implied odds of calling and playing for set value (because with a small pocket pair like this that is the only way to play) are pretty marginal.

    As played, that is a really ugly spot on the turn. There are 1280 chips in the pot and you have 1270 behind. Assuming that if you shove you always get called, you're getting about 2:1 on your chips when you're 4:1 against to hit a full house or quads on the river. The issue is that whilst you may fold out some baby flushes, you really have very little FE here against two players on that board.

    That said, given you close the action, I think I would just call the turn bet, peel off a river card and see if you can hit one of your 10 outs on the river. Even though you're only getting 3:1 on the call, there are also implied odds here to consider since if you hit and shove you will very likely get called. If you don't hit on the river and there is serious action in front you can get away from the hand with ~20x BB left.
  3. #3
    Call the turn and cross your fingers. If you do fillup in this spot you will more than likely triple up and be the chip leader. Be prepared to go into shortstack mode though.
  4. #4
    Fold pre-flop because it's too big for set value..

    on the turn, it's pretty hard.. I guess you can call because the blinds are just 30-60 and you can get away with 800 chips..

    I would fold the turn though but not a big mistake either way..
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    I probably would have folded preflop, but the minbet might have enticed me. Tough call on the river, someone is bound to have the flush.

    I most likely would have folded to keep my stack a little more healthy, but its still a tough call. I've been in the same situation as you before, and have laid down what would have been a nice boat, but I usually found a better spot later in the game.
  6. #6
    My uneducated opinion:
    DeJay54 has weak As. He did nothing but check/call til the Turn
    enno1975 has weak 2 pairs

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