BB special,flopped two pairs

[hangchiong]

i couldnt fold to this min-raise,perhaps i should call?or should i have shove?


Full Tilt Poker Game #8116373039: $2 + $0.25 Sit & Go (61737254), Table 1 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:13:10 ET - 2008/09/17
Seat 1: hangchiong (1,350)
Seat 2: JackSorkings (2,180)
Seat 4: DrEmperor (2,375)
Seat 7: Ghooostman (2,295)
Seat 8: Midnight Pass (3,430)
Seat 9: Maxtowerr (1,870)
Maxtowerr posts the small blind of 30
hangchiong posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hangchiong [2c 3s]
JackSorkings calls 60
DrEmperor folds
Ghooostman calls 60
Midnight Pass folds
Maxtowerr calls 30
hangchiong checks
*** FLOP *** [2h 3d 5c]
Maxtowerr checks
hangchiong bets 120
JackSorkings raises to 240
Ghooostman folds
Maxtowerr folds
hangchiong raises to 1,290, and is all in???

[taipan168]

I like it. Bottom two pair is counterfeited quite easily and the board is a bit drawy, so I like playing this really fast.

[caddie444]

I like the lead out bet, my default bet for flopping bottom 2 out of the blinds is 3/4 pot.

This is one of those situations where you have the best hand often enough for it to profitable, so you should shove over his min raise.

You feel like a moron when he shows up with a set or A-4, but it's either push or fold after his minraise, and he could very easily have a worse hand, like a UTG limped AA for example.

Like Tai said, play this one fast.

NH

[taipan168]

Ah, I missed the initial flop bet size, sorry about that. In these spots I like to bet pot rather than half pot with a vulnerable hand and three opps in the hand.

So, my line is bet pot (or even overbet a bit), call a shove and shove over a raise.

[mieczkowusc]

I would agree with everyone. I have a hard time knowing what to do with a weak two pair, but I tend to either shove or make a pot size bet or higher to try and keep the drawing hands away.

NH

[brian1175]

This looks like my min reraise theory....dont tell me...your beat...let's do a study and see if we can find a hand at the low buy ins that was min reraised and you were ahead....

[taipan168]

This looks like my min reraise theory....dont tell me...your beat...let's do a study and see if we can find a hand at the low buy ins that was min reraised and you were ahead....

Ummm, let's start with the following:
- 5x (particularly A5)
- 66-AA (donks LOVE to limp AA UTG)
- Possibly missed overcards trying to pick off your bet cheap

I'd say you're ahead far more often than you're behind here (but bottom two is a vulnerable hand so I want to play it fast).

[mukaka]

you're so ahead here.. the flop is pretty terrible so he might even be assuming you don't have anything and re-raising you to pick off your bluff..