KJo, trips on the turn but flush hits on the river ($27)

[taipan168]

Opp was loose, stats like 40/30 up to this point (small sample size though). What is your river move?

Poker Stars No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1455
UTG+1: t580
MP1: t3535
MP2: t1435
CO: t1430
Button: t1935
SB: t1660
Hero: t1470

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with K J
6 folds, SB raises to t60, Hero calls t30 (pot was t90).

Flop: J 6 8 (t120, 2 players)
SB bets t60, Hero calls t60 (pot was t180).

Turn: J (t240, 2 players)
SB bets t120, Hero raises to t360, SB calls t240 (pot was t720).

River: T (t960, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero ????

[Stripclubjunkie]

Check behind would be 100% safe...But would he really chase a draw to the river with that kinda action? So a value bet would be best, no?

[GatorJH]

I am checking behind here as I can't think of too many hands that you get to call value bets here.

I think higher PP's get it all in on the turn and missed draws give up, plus the Ts was one of the worst cards for you as it completed a few of the draws that are out there.

[hangchiong]

ill bet here.river checks usually shows weakness,but checking would be ok too.

[mukaka]

it doesn't matter.. I can't see what hands they will call here that are worse than us so it's best to check..

[jimmy44]

2 half bets OOP from a loose player is very often a draw.
Here one of the 2 draws hit, so I would be tempted to check behind. If I fell that he does not c/r as a bluff, I would bet about 250-300 so that he can call with T9o.

[mikeneron]

I think I am just checking behind here. The pot is $960 so is a decent size and I am happy to take that here.

[revolvingiris]

Checking for sure, what would call you that you can beat?

[drmcboy]

raise flop. If you're worried about playing a big pot with TP the turn doesn't help you, unless he has 86 which he'll now turbo fold drawing dead.

b/f river, I want so see someone CR the river before I worry about it.

[Ghaleon]

I don't see how he can bet and call with a flush draw on the turn without the correct pot odds, then check the river. His call on the turn is only good if you call another 480 or so bet when he hits the flush, so why wouldn't he value bet? It's not like you've been reluctant to put chips in the pot. He knows you have something, and you'll probably call. Same thing goes for a straight.

Even so, i like checking here. He's either completely missed and is not going to put any more money in the pot. Or he's picked up on the fact that you have something and is waiting for you to bet so he can crush you with AJ, 88, 66, TT, JT.

The big factor here for me is that it is way too early. Take down the t960 pot if you have the best hand, and preserve the rest of your stack if you don't. Getting paid off on a value bet definitely helps, but and extra 400-500 chips just isn't enough to really propel you ITM when there is still so much poker to be played. However, LOSING those 400-500 chips right here will definitely cripple your chances of making the money.

[mcatdog]

raise flop. If you're worried about playing a big pot with TP the turn doesn't help you, unless he has 86 which he'll now turbo fold drawing dead.

b/f river, I want so see someone CR the river before I worry about it.

I agree with this but I think just calling the flop is a bigger mistake than checking the river, pot control with TPGK is a concept to be ignored BVB vs a 40/30

[taipan168]

raise flop. If you're worried about playing a big pot with TP the turn doesn't help you, unless he has 86 which he'll now turbo fold drawing dead.

b/f river, I want so see someone CR the river before I worry about it.

I agree with this but I think just calling the flop is a bigger mistake than checking the river, pot control with TPGK is a concept to be ignored BVB vs a 40/30

Interesting, pot control was exactly the reason I didn't raise the flop but I agree with you that against a 40/30 I'm way ahead of his range and I pick off his c-bet pretty often here.

[fjuanl]

Agree with the others about raising the flop. Your hand is pretty vunerable but with a villian that could be on a huge range preflop, you want to get more value and protect tpgk.

I think I check behind on river but its close. I can't really rule out a flush because of the paired board...a lot of players c/c because they're always worried about the boat. Against a tighter player who could much more likely have QQ+ here, I value bet

[mieczkowusc]

I would definitely be checking this behind, if only for the information on the opponent. Seeing what the villain had would be very useful for future pots, and it could be a psychological tactic if you run into a similar situation with the villain and might be able to bluff him out of a pot.