50NL bluffcatching

[kmind]

Having trouble vs. people with TP against players that seem to have wide ranges but are making me put lots of money in.


1. Villain is 22/16/inf and 36% steal over 76 hands. Every street his agg. frequency was 70+. Should I be folding this river? Huge overbet but does this not seem like Ax (a lot beat me I know) or missed draws?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($87.30)
Button ($50)
SB ($53.60)
Hero (BB) ($52.60)
UTG ($50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, J
3 folds, SB raises to $2, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($4) 9, A, 8 (2 players)
SB bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

Turn: ($11) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $8, Hero calls $8

River: ($27) 3 (2 players)
SB bets $40.10 (All-In), Hero calls $39.10 (All-In)

Total pot: $105.20 | Rake: $3


2. Villain is 81/58/1.6 over 72 hand and stealing 78% of the time. His river aggression was infinity which made me want to call but it seems like too many two pair or straights can be in his range.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($18.60)
UTG ($26.85)
MP ($18.45)
Button ($25.45)
Hero (SB) ($50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J, K
2 folds, Button raises to $1.75, Hero calls $1.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($4) 3, K, 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $4, Hero calls $4

Turn: ($12) 5 (4 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

River: ($12) 6 (4 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $12, Hero calls $12

Total pot: $36 | Rake: $1.80

[zook]

1. I like calling a pot-sized bet but I think I fold to the overbet.

2. I 3bet pre alot. As played I call river too.

[kmind]

In #1, sure pot odds are smaller with a pot sized bet but do you think overbetting as opposed to betting pot is a tell in general? I know it's always player dependent but just curious if in general.

In #2, I can understand 3betting (for value, right?) but he hadn't folded once to a 3bet and he was only 50bb deep. But, again, we are ahead of his calling range anyways.

[will641]

1. I like calling a pot-sized bet but I think I fold to the overbet.

2. I 3bet pre alot. As played I call river too.

^^^^ yep.

[griffey24]

Hand 1 - gaah I don't know. ALLL the draws in the world missed, so I'm pretty tempted to call. I'd have to make my decision in the moment on feel and timing on this one I think.

Hand 2 - I don't mind flatting pre, I prob flat these fish a fair bit and just fill it up once I hit. I'm never ever folding this river to this villain, and I'm probably leading 3 streets vs this guy if he's stationy. If he's more aggro than stationy, then I like a c/c down.

[bode]

hand 1 i might call in the heat of things if he has been THAT aggro on all 3 streets, but a fold is probably correct.

hand 2 is fine. How about donking the turn? seems like enough we beat would still call?