Two hands: one serious and one for fun

[jo]

OK, how did I do in the first hand? I'd only played with villain for one orbit. He'd played two hands and not done anything out of the ordinary. I really have no idea whether I played it too weak, strong or whatever.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Heroine (Button) ($190)
SB ($198)
BB ($215.05)
UTG ($343.25)
MP ($216.10)
CO ($200)

Preflop: Heroine is Button with Q, Q
3 folds, Heroine raises to $8, 1 fold, BB raises to $26, Heroine calls $18

Flop: ($53) J, 7, 9 (2 players)
BB bets $26, Heroine raises to $70, BB raises to $189.05 (All-In), Heroine folds

Total pot: $193 | Rake: $3


And then this hand just for fun. I guess he was really, really sure I had him beat.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($210.20)
UTG ($108.80)
MP ($406.60)
Button ($485.05)
Heroine (SB) ($200)

Preflop: Heroine is SB with K, Q
UTG calls $2, 2 folds, Heroine raises to $8, 1 fold, UTG calls $6

Flop: ($18) 7, 9, 4 (2 players)
Heroine checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($18) Q (2 players)
Heroine bets $12, UTG calls $12

River: ($42) Q (2 players)
Heroine bets $30, UTG raises to $88, Heroine raises to $146, 1 fold

Total pot: $218 | Rake: $2

[will641]

this is pretty butchered. if you are going to raise your hand is far too strong to fold. i would probably just flat though. see what he does on the turn, but im probably getting it in.

[BigPapi]

i definitely call the flop. you have the Q of spades, which takes out a lot of his drawing combo's he could be doing this with. So I'm thinking he's probably doing this for value. Problem is we have no info on the player as to what he considers value (TPTK perhaps or can he do this with AKs?) As played we have half our stack in and basically committing ourselves and we are not very happy about calling the allin. Since we have no info on this player we dont know his range exactely, but I doubt were doing very well against any realistic allin range here, but probably well enough to call now based on pot odds.

[Da GOAT]

hand 2 obv fine, opp only has a few dollars left in his stack anyway on riv.

Hand 1-yay calc time

omg your fold is so so bad

EV=(our equity)*(total pot) - cost of our call

Ok if we dont figure out our equity vs his range and solve for X then this is the equity we need to BE

0=(X)*381-94

blah blah

X=24.6%

Ok now his range may well be, heres a fairly tight but standard range imo for opp willing to just ship flop.

JJ+,AsKs,AsQs,AJs,AJo

We are 43% to win vs this range

PLugging that into our calc

EV=(.43)*(381)-94

EV=+$69.83

Very bad fold imo if my figures are correct.

[baudib]

Because of position, he may think you are stealing and he is repopping with a slightly wider range of hands...He may think you are making a play and could possibly do this with TT/88. My guess is AsKs or AJ, possibly KK.

The second hand is either JT or two clubs.

[BigPapi]

Goat; AQs and AJs are impossible if you're referring to spade suit only (which I believe you are). also 99 might be in his range.

[Da GOAT]

Even though I put AsQs in when we have Qs it doesnt change the calc since pokerstove will discount the holding since its duplicated.

If we add in 99 into opp range then our equity is 40.5% and obv still a call.

[BigPapi]

ah didnt know pokerstove does that automatically. nice!

it's even more clearly a call then I thought, now that I see the odds you get. Do you agree on calling flop > raising?

[nutsinho]

raise folding is terrible, raise calling is probably too bold with no history. that leaves calling or folding on the flop; calling is gonna be better without any reads.

[Da GOAT]

so are we calling any turn shove then besides A or K then nuts?

[griffey24]

hand 1 - ugh... nooo. Raise/folding here makes me feel sick. I agree with nuts that raise/call is good with history, and otherwise to just flat and re-eval turn. If he's the type that would stack with KJ/AJ here or something, we kinda gotta go with it.

Hand 2 - River is fine. If this hand is deeper, I might even just flat the river raise.

[nutsinho]

lol there is 80 cents more...

[griffey24]

lol there is 80 cents more...

holy crap.. just noticed that. He folded with 80 cents more?? lol He wanted to maintain his tight image I guess, and not show his bluff.

[Da GOAT]

lol he folded WOW, did he not even have one out lol

[nutsinho]

lol he folded WOW, did he not even have one out lol

hard to imagine he was drawing dead on the ocean

[will641]

thats amazing. i would like to think that he thought he had $80 left.

[jo]

Thanks guys. Compared to you, I think I was giving him too tight a range for three-betting from the big blind, and then shoving on the flop. That probably says something about my own game.

As for hand two, yeah, I think I misread my hand often enough for the 80 cent call to be +EV :P