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  1. #1

    Default Sunday Crapper, limp a PP and then....

    First two limpers have been passive, that's all I got on em, I've seen the misraiser min3bet and fold to a shove. Now my hand is face-up, but whatevs:

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10+$1 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB (t4725)
    UTG (t2580)
    MP1 (t4340)
    MP2 (t8020)
    Hero (CO) (t3460)
    Button (t4665)
    SB (t3860)

    Hero's M: 23.07

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 7, 7
    1 fold, UTG calls t100, MP1 calls t100, 2 folds, Hero calls t100, Button raises to t200, 2 folds, UTG calls t100, MP1 calls t100, Hero raises to t3460 (All-In)
  2. #2
    You're risking too many chips. I would just smooth call the min raise.
  3. #3
    You complete the action, stacks are way deep enough to set mine, why are you turning a marginal made hand with lots of implied value for making a nut made hand into a bluff, when the stacks of everyone in the pot are this deep and you're sitting at over 25BB?

    Just a thought.

    Also over-limping 2 EP limpers and shipping when button minraises looks uber retarded. You NEVER flat anything you actually want to play for stacks there, ever. Except maybe AKo and I don't think you're ever that nitty.

    Ed. Note:
    And I'm not saying this in a tone like "Don't do this", the tone is more like "From a hand reading perspective you're never going to take the action you took, with hands you want to play for stacks." So your hand looks really bluffy.
  4. #4
    Whenever your hand looks more like a bluff than a made hand it's best not to make an aggressive action. Unless you have a made hand with relatively good strength, which in this case you don't.
  5. #5
    I was more worried about what his hand looks like, to me, it felt like a pot-builder raise, not a "omg narrow the field I has teh rawkets" raise. There is like 750 in dead money out there that looked appetizing.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    I was more worried about what his hand looks like, to me, it felt like a pot-builder raise, not a "omg narrow the field I has teh rawkets" raise. There is like 750 in dead money out there that looked appetizing.
    You might have more fold equity in a $10 tourney than the $2 and $5's I play, but at my levels you're guaranteed to get at least one caller. You better hope they have A rag suited or 66.
  7. #7
    I dont hope, I know he's not making this raise with a 88-AA type hand so I feel at worst I'm a flip and in this tournament I'm willing to take a gamble to get a big stack.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    I dont hope, I know he's not making this raise with a 88-AA type hand so I feel at worst I'm a flip and in this tournament I'm willing to take a gamble to get a big stack.
    But you don't have to gamble like this in order to win these.
  9. #9
    I'm thinking somewhere down the road in a tournament with 23,000 players I might have to gamble a few times, and I'm OK with that.

    I felt button didn't even have a hand he'd call a shove with, and I felt that had UTG and MP been trapping they would not have just called the minraise, so I felt my hand was ahead of both their initial ranges and actually their shove-calling range.
  10. #10
    I have to agree with overflow...I would NEVER put you on a hand like AA/KK/QQ or even JJ/AK there. Don't mean to be harsh but I see this type of stuff a lot...it's always a small pair or something retarded like KQ...at this level, this could easily be a retarded min-raise from AA.
    Playing big pots at small stakes.
  11. #11
    you're all NITS ya hear me! NITS!
  12. #12
    I swear I'm not a nit, normally.

    The other day I made a donk push with 77...on first level...5 limpers...I'm in the small blind and just complete...the BB raises 20x BB...

    everyone else folded...I thought about it a while and decided there was no way he has me beat. I figured he had AK but thought there was a great chance he had a smaller pair. With so many limpers, I hoped that 2 or more had Ax or Kx and shoved it. He called with AK and I won (flop was K7x).
  13. #13
    I think you overestimate the value of a bigstack at this stage of the tourney. You might've been right in this instance, but overall a -EV imo
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