I should know how to play this by now

[Irisheyes]

He's 42/28/3.9 raise cbet of 27% 370 hands. Pretty aggro but we haven't bee involved much.

$5/$10 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO lowbridge ($2390.00)
BTN Hero ($1306.25)
SB Rex_Mundi. ($3174.54)
BB Stewiee ($1000.00)

Pre-flop: ($15, 5 players) Hero is BTN
lowbridge raises to $35, Hero calls $35, 3 folds

Flop: ($85, 2 players)
lowbridge checks, Hero bets $75, lowbridge raises to $160, $85 to Hero ($1196.25)?

[thizzSantaCruz]

well this isnt even him raising a cbet. I would be interested in what his c-bet% is?

[a500lbgorilla]

I can't think of many hands that would make sense except better flush draws and straight draw combos like AK/AQdd

[Irisheyes]

well this isnt even him raising a cbet. I would be interested in what his c-bet% is?

I think you read it wrong?

[griffey24]

His raise is so small, and I'm not sure we have much fold equity here. I'd hate to get it in and only have our insider good here. Even a 9 is pushing it on this board.

I call given price we're getting and re-eval turn.

[thizzSantaCruz]

well this isnt even him raising a cbet. I would be interested in what his c-bet% is?

I think you read it wrong?

Not reading it wrong but maybe my terminology is wrong. I thought a cbet is when you raise pf, and follow up with a bet on the flop. Here you called preflop and bet the flop when checked to.

[Irisheyes]

well this isnt even him raising a cbet. I would be interested in what his c-bet% is?

I think you read it wrong?

Not reading it wrong but maybe my terminology is wrong. I thought a cbet is when you raise pf, and follow up with a bet on the flop. Here you called preflop and bet the flop when checked to.

wow shit I never even realised that. hmmm

[IowaSkinsFan]

420, then shove turn

obv call shove on flop.

[thizzSantaCruz]

well this isnt even him raising a cbet. I would be interested in what his c-bet% is?

I think you read it wrong?

Not reading it wrong but maybe my terminology is wrong. I thought a cbet is when you raise pf, and follow up with a bet on the flop. Here you called preflop and bet the flop when checked to.

wow shit I never even realised that. hmmm

My thinking is if his cbet % is low he could make this play with some sort of draw, that most likely has you dominated. When seeing this hand thats what immediatly came to mind but now that ISF has chimed in I'm probably incorrect.

[Irisheyes]

420, then shove turn

obv call shove on flop.

What kinda hands do you feel make up his flop range?

[zook]

c/r'ing instead of cbetting is often a strong draw or nutlike hand in my experience. You're a 2:1 dog to even the widest range I can give him so no way I'm raising here. I'd call to spike and be careful if I do.

[nutsinho]

I guess i'd definitely call in the heat of battle but damn...we have implied odds working more against us than for us with this weak of a draw. Do you think he's ever on close to complete air when he does this or do you expect to be up against some sort of pretty good hand always?

[Irisheyes]

I guess i'd definitely call in the heat of battle but damn...we have implied odds working more against us than for us with this weak of a draw. Do you think he's ever on close to complete air when he does this or do you expect to be up against some sort of pretty good hand always?

Well I know he's a little crazy and over aggro but I think for him to do this with pure air on a board like this is a bit of a stretch. My personal feeling is that he has some piece of it like TP or better.

[Irisheyes]

So anyway I guess that general consensus is that flatting is > raising which is what I thought too when I played the hand.

Turn: ($405, 2 players)
lowbridge bets $300, $300 to Hero ($1111.25)?

Flat again I guess? Notice I picked up more nut outs. I still think stuff like AJ is in his range here.

[griffey24]

Not sure how nitty this is, but I think I fold here. We have some pretty bad reverse implied odds goin on in this hand I'd imagine.

Don't see why Jxd's can't make up a decent portion of his range, on top of other higher FD/combo's.

(edit: high staaaaaaaakes forum!)

[a500lbgorilla]

I think this is a fold and I find it incredibly entertaining that the deck keeps trying to get you to put your stack in!

[silu73]

Flop looks like a clear call to me. The turn is marginal but in the heat of the moment I might just fold.

[Numbr2intheWorld]

It seems pretty FOS on the flop but it would really suck getting it in against AKdd here or something like that. Flop shove seems bad.

I can't tell if you have enough behind on the turn here to fold a monster draw. You may just want to fold just because if you river something you're fucked a lot or not getting any value ever (keep in mind a higher straight can clearly be in his range). Actually yeah i recommend just folding the turn.

[a500lbgorilla]

420, then shove turn

obv call shove on flop.

It seems pretty FOS on the flop but it would really suck getting it in against AKdd here or something like that. Flop shove seems bad.

I can't tell if you have enough behind on the turn here to fold a monster draw. You may just want to fold just because if you river something you're fucked a lot or not getting any value ever (keep in mind a higher straight can clearly be in his range). Actually yeah i recommend just folding the turn.

does not compute? Bankitdrew just ctrl+alt+deleted....

[meetfdc]

should calll