Flush draw against 2 opps facing AI ($6.50)

[Nakamura]

The pre-flop call is probably a little loose here. After the flop I figure opp who puts in 375 has at least TP and the implied odds are sufficient to call. Second opp plays pretty weirdly. Checks then pushes? I think this usually indicates a weak hand or a draw.

I figure we have 8 outs for a flush, plus the A is maybe an out. Perhaps our opp has an A and a higher kicker or an A and something on the board, so we can probably consider the A a semi-out. I'll add another 2 outs for 10 outs in total. I think maybe as high as 25% of the time opp is either on a FD/SD or bluff. Can we call here?

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FullTilt Poker Game
Blinds : 100/200
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6 players
[SB] eNakamura (2672)
[BB] Jo2010 (3650)
[1] mayhem25 (3370)
[2] DoktorMozga (915)
[3] Harlsburg (230)
[But] know doubt (2663)

eNakamura 9 A Initial Pot: 300

mayhem25 calls 200
DoktorMozga folds
Harlsburg folds
know doubt folds
Harlsburg says : Harlsburg has reconnected
eNakamura calls 100
Jo2010 checks
### FLOP ### Q 6 4 Pot: 600
eNakamura checks
Jo2010 checks
mayhem25 bets 375
eNakamura calls 375
Jo2010 is All in
mayhem25 folds
eNakamura says : eNakamura has requested TIME
eNakamura is All in

[baudib]

I would probably call because this type of bet is rarely a strong made hand....hard to put him on a hand since it's the BB in an unraised pot but it's 53, 75 or a lower flush draw much of the time.

[kevster]

Can we call here?

eNakamura is All in

Wat?????

[kevster]

Rightly or wrongly, I'm folding here almost always. The blinds are high and you have a reasonable stack - I see no reason to jeopardise that. You may have the odds but your chasing against at least one made hand if not two.

[Nakamura]

Rightly or wrongly, I'm folding here almost always. The blinds are high and you have a reasonable stack - I see no reason to jeopardise that. You may have the odds but your chasing against at least one made hand if not two.

Second opp folded.

[taipan168]

I think preflop is OK, but only because the limper and BB have deep stacks. If they had standard stacks I would dump this preflop.

As played, I agree with kevster, I just dump it on the flop. You're not getting odds to see one more card (assuming that your A is not necessarily a good out), you can't assume that you won't face another bet on the turn and you don't close the action by calling.

As you played it, seems like a really easy fold to me after opp goes AI. This is just a question of pot odds. You need to call 2097 to see a pot of 3447 so you're getting 1.64 to 1 on the call. Even ignoring the ICM effect you need better than 2:1 odds to have correct odds to chase the flush.