tough spot here in a 3.30 MTT

[philly and the phanatics]

-----Hand 20-----
Heros M = 15.94
Full Tilt Poker Game #8930029153: $3 + $0.30 Knockout (68216118), Table 45 - 60/120 - No Limit Holdem - 1:44:39 ET - 2008/11/12
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Seat 1: WildBill 54321 (13,450)
Seat 2: Hero (2,870)
Seat 3: lowdollarpro (4,780)
Seat 4: shooterz111 (1,560)
Seat 5: Grasapa (2,765)
Seat 6: Maverick0522 (1,980)
Seat 7: jimbo3920 (3,805)
Seat 8: ewg1934 (2,990)
Seat 9: soccrpete (2,295)
WildBill 54321 posts the small blind of 60
Hero posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #9
Preflop: Hero dealt J J
lowdollarpro folds
shooterz111 folds
Grasapa folds
Maverick0522 folds
jimbo3920 folds
ewg1934 raises to 2,990, and is all in
soccrpete folds
WildBill 54321 folds
Hero calls 2,750, and is all in

:-/.....i have a lot of BB's left and my M is pretty good right now, however i am well behind the chip average of 4500 here...ewg has been pretty aggressive but i have never seen him open shove before so what should i do?....this is what i gave him as a range on pokerstove : 88+,AJs+,KQs,AJo+...maybe thats a little loose but idk, its hard to tell at this level...but pokerstove says i have 54% equity, so does that mean a call here was good?

[Sprayed]

Most people don't open shove 25bbs. Don't show the results because it will skew people's suggestions. Don't let the results make you think that you either played the hand good or bad. Results don't matter.

[philly and the phanatics]

Most people don't open shove 25bbs. Don't show the results because it will skew people's suggestions. Don't let the results make you think that you either played the hand good or bad. Results don't matter.

edited it...but you didnt comment on the hand at all other than, people dont usually do that...

[thnwkd]

however i am well behind the chip average of 4500 here...[/b]ewg has been pretty aggressive but i have never seen him open shove before so what should i do?....this is what i gave him as a range on pokerstove : 88+,AJs+,KQs,AJo+...maybe thats a little loose but idk, its hard to tell at this level...but pokerstove says i have 54% equity, so does that mean a call here was good?

I don't pay much attention to the chip average in tournaments, just my stack in relation to the blinds and other stacks on the table. Right now you have 24bbs, which is not a horrible stack size to be at... but you should be looking for good spots to pick up chips, this seems like a good one.

[bigspenda73]

come on now

[philly and the phanatics]

come on now what?

[CorbinDallas]

u are ahead of maniacs donk shoving range. i'd call here 100% of the time.

[baudib]

It's a good call. I can't wait to click the call button. Your range on him is way too tight, btw. I've seen people shove a lot of garbage hands here. In fact, I'd just about eliminate AA/KK/QQ from his range.

Just because he hasn't open-shoved before doesn't mean he has a monster. He could easily have a small pocket pair he doesn't know how to play postflop. He could have Ax or Kx as well.

[chardrian]

I need a superduperpooperscooper read to fold here.

[hopeful]

Tournie is only 20 hands old, you can't have a read on ewg strong enough to tell you what to do, maybe he is shoving a wide range maybe not. Early in small tournie like this people make this move for two reasons, either hyper aggressive and gambling to get a big stack or 2, they just got dealt aces and cacked their pants not knowing what to do.
I would probably fold, calling with AA,KK,AKs maybe QQ.

[bikes]

Tournie is only 20 hands old, you can't have a read on ewg strong enough to tell you what to do, maybe he is shoving a wide range maybe not. Early in small tournie like this people make this move for two reasons, either hyper aggressive and gambling to get a big stack or 2, they just got dealt aces and cacked their pants not knowing what to do.
I would probably fold, calling with AA,KK,AKs maybe QQ.

.... what????


Snap call.

[Sprayed]

Most people don't open shove 25bbs. Don't show the results because it will skew people's suggestions. Don't let the results make you think that you either played the hand good or bad. Results don't matter.

edited it...but you didnt comment on the hand at all other than, people dont usually do that...

People don't do this and therefore I call.

[shazbox]

P.S. Stack average shoots up super fast in the first hour of the tourney because all sorts of donks go all in on the first hand. So you are bound to be behind the average unless you are running super right off the start. Don't worry about keeping up with it really.

[bigspenda73]

a 56/0 did this to me today and he had KK

Oh yea I had AA