Would a stop-and-go be better here?

[baudib]

Just got knocked out and am second-guessing myself. Villain is unlikely to fold here as he has called pushes with AT/KJ/44 from reasonably large stacks. I'm being results-oriented at the moment but I did feel it was time to double-up or go home; we're at 45 left in the Fifty-Fity.

Full Tilt Poker Game #9223560486: The Fifty-Fifty (69051189), Table 112 - 1000/2000 Ante 250 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:40:04 ET - 2008/11/29
Seat 1: tmac2424 (44,854)
Seat 2: thewood503 (53,600)
Seat 3: baudib1 (28,791)
Seat 4: boutaris (57,184)
Seat 5: Java_Joe3 (121,615)
Seat 6: iminluck (56,303)
Seat 7: 88_SPIDER_88 (64,466)
Seat 8: duster73 (31,047)
Seat 9: zapatero (31,468)
tmac2424 antes 250
thewood503 antes 250
baudib1 antes 250
boutaris antes 250
Java_Joe3 antes 250
iminluck antes 250
88_SPIDER_88 antes 250
duster73 antes 250
zapatero antes 250
baudib1 posts the small blind of 1,000
boutaris posts the big blind of 2,000
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to baudib1 [8s 8h]
Java_Joe3 has 15 seconds left to act
Java_Joe3 folds
iminluck has 15 seconds left to act
iminluck raises to 5,000
88_SPIDER_88 folds
duster73 folds
zapatero folds
tmac2424 folds
thewood503 folds
baudib1 raises to 28,541, and is all in

[fjuanl]

not short enough for a stop-n-go, plus you would be letting the BB a chance to see a flop. Even with no fold equity you should be fine getting it in knowing villian has a wide raising range

[baudib]

What about a reraise, which he might respect more than a push, and get the rest in on the flop no matter what comes?

I feel that despite getting it in ahead, I'm rarely more than a coinflip from being eliminated...more complex moves might give me more than a coinflip's chance?

[drmcboy]

he has called pushes with AT/KJ/44

looks good

I think a 3 bet is OK too

[Poker Orifice]

yah.. only problem with stop n' go is the bb will be in there too in all likelihood. Maybe a small raise to signify strength and then just get it in there on the flop regardless.
I've been getting called down light lately and haven't been winning alot of races either. I'm often second guessing whether a stop n go may have been the better play.

[baudib]

It may be -- I'm fine with getting it in ahead as a 54 percent favoriate, but getting it in on the flop when we're 70 percent favorite might be better.

[Fjaman]

early pos. raise and you are sitting on 88 in the sb with an m around 7ish, i dont know about the push without a specific read, an alternative is taking a flop and see what happends and then push or fold, you can afford the call and if you loose you can still play ss poker the following round.

I like the push better if it was a late pos. raise since your stack is a good size for resteals.
I would say this is a marginal push at best

[mcatdog]

It may be -- I'm fine with getting it in ahead as a 54 percent favoriate, but getting it in on the flop when we're 70 percent favorite might be better.

How are you supposed to know whether you're a 70 percent favorite without seeing your opponents hole cards?

[chardrian]

push or fold with those stacks and folding is just bad.

[baudib]

It may be -- I'm fine with getting it in ahead as a 54 percent favoriate, but getting it in on the flop when we're 70 percent favorite might be better.

How are you supposed to know whether you're a 70 percent favorite without seeing your opponents hole cards?

The same way I know I'm a 54 percent favorite preflop.

[dthorne04]

It may be -- I'm fine with getting it in ahead as a 54 percent favoriate, but getting it in on the flop when we're 70 percent favorite might be better.

How are you supposed to know whether you're a 70 percent favorite without seeing your opponents hole cards?

this would be an appropriate time to post the LOL AK I KNEW IT pic, if i knew where it was

[chardrian]

if you're dying to go'n'go here you can raise to like 10k pre.

[mcatdog]

It may be -- I'm fine with getting it in ahead as a 54 percent favoriate, but getting it in on the flop when we're 70 percent favorite might be better.

How are you supposed to know whether you're a 70 percent favorite without seeing your opponents hole cards?

The same way I know I'm a 54 percent favorite preflop.

54 percent is your equity vs. villain's hypothetical range. Let's see some hypothetical flops where you're 70 percent or better vs. that range.

[baudib]

A J 8

8 4 2

9 5 6

7 4 4

7 6 5

9 7 6

T 9 7

[baudib]

if you're dying to go'n'go here you can raise to like 10k pre.

This is something I use about 50 percent of the time against a button raiser with something like TT or AJs. I should include it in my repertoire more often against loose donks like this.