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Short Stack Shoving Range from SB when folded around?

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  1. #1

    Default Short Stack Shoving Range from SB when folded around?

    I was wondering what people thought about appropriate shoving ranges from the SB when having M between 3 and 5. Only having one person to beat, I figure you can shove light if the BB is pretty tight. But how light?

    Recently, I was in a $24 MTT after the bubble with a small stack fluctuating between 14,000 and 26,000 with the blinds at 2000/1000 ,2400/1200, and 3000/1500 (plus antes in each). Not picking up any decent cards, just staying afloat with shoves and a few reshoves. Six or Seven times it was folded around to me in the SB (since the cutoff and button were really tight), and I was shoving into the BB with hands as bad as 97.

    Is this too loose? What range should I be looking at? At one point should you be shoving with any two?
  2. #2
    probably start off shoving the top 70% or so

    22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J2s+,T2s+,93s+,
    84s+,74s+,63s+,53s+,43s,A2o+,K2o+,Q3o+,J5o+,
    T6o+,96o+,86o+,76o

    after a few times you may want to start folding the worst of these but with those stack sizes shove at least 50%:

    33+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J4s+,T6s+,96s+,86s+,76s,65s,A2o +,
    K5o+,Q7o+,J7o+,T7o+,98o
  3. #3
    Doc's ranges seem about right, but I would basically never drop below 60%. For example, shoving K2o is unexploitable, and if he's going to adjust by calling you a lot, a lot of the hands he'll add to his calling range are actually hands that you beat.

    75% the first time around, 65% after you've taken his blind a few times

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