running bad or playing bad

[Danh Bai]

I just can't believe how badly I'm running. I've lost the last 8(!) sng's in a row. I didn't think it was possible. Am I running bad or playing bad? All of these are from from the last 9 Sng's in a row and they are the hands that busted/crippled me:


Hand 1

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00+$0.40 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button (t1500)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
Hero (MP3) (t1500)
CO (t1500)

Hero's M: 50.00

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with ,
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, 2 folds, Hero raises to t120, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls t100

Flop: (t270) , , (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t200, UTG+1 calls t200

Turn: (t670) (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t360, UTG+1 calls t360

River: (t1390) (2 players)
UTG+1 bets t820 (All-In), Hero calls t820 (All-In)

Total pot: t3030



Hand 2

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00+$0.40 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG (t1745)
UTG+1 (t970)
MP1 (t735)
MP2 (t1395)
MP3 (t1625)
CO (t1425)
Hero (Button) (t2430)
SB (t2895)
BB (t280)

Hero's M: 54.00

Preflop: Hero is Button with ,
3 folds, MP2 raises to t90, 2 folds, Hero calls t90, 1 fold, BB raises to t280 (All-In), MP2 calls t190, Hero calls t190

Flop: (t855) , , (3 players, 1 all-in)
MP2 bets t540, Hero raises to t2150 (All-In), MP2 calls t575 (All-In)

Turn: (t3085) (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: (t3085) (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: t3085


Hand 3

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00+$0.40 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (Button) (t1805)
SB (t4050)
BB (t1625)
UTG (t1220)
MP (t4800)

Hero's M: 24.07

Preflop: Hero is Button with ,
2 folds, Hero raises to t150, SB calls t125, 1 fold

Flop: (t350) , , (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t350) (2 players)
SB bets t150, Hero calls t150

River: (t650) (2 players)
SB bets t150, Hero calls t150

Total pot: t950


Hand 4

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00+$0.40 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB (t2470)
BB (t285)
UTG (t2285)
Hero (MP) (t1160)
CO (t5040)
Button (t2260)

Hero's M: 7.73

Preflop: Hero is MP with ,
1 fold, Hero raises to t1160 (All-In), 3 folds, BB calls t185 (All-In)

Flop: (t620) , , (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t620) (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t620) (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t620



Hand 5

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00+$0.40 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 (t1550)
MP2 (t640)
CO (t1420)
Button (t2930)
SB (t1450)
Hero (BB) (t1480)
UTG (t1580)
UTG+1 (t2450)

Hero's M: 49.33

Preflop: Hero is BB with ,
UTG raises to t100, UTG+1 calls t100, 1 fold, MP2 raises to t640 (All-In), 3 folds, Hero raises to t1480 (All-In), 2 folds

Flop: (t1490) , , (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t1490) (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t1490) (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t1490


Hand 6

Before this hand I had gotten AK, raised, c-bet and had to fold, then totally card dead.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00+$0.40 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG (t1425)
MP (t1752)
CO (t1730)
Button (t5257)
Hero (SB) (t1040)
BB (t2296)

Hero's M: 6.93

Preflop: Hero is SB with ,
1 fold, MP calls t100, CO raises to t400, 1 fold, Hero raises to t1040 (All-In), 2 folds, CO calls t640

Flop: (t2280) , , (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t2280) (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t2280) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t2280

Hand 7

This guy had raised the last 5 hands in a row, he can't have a hand everytime.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00+$0.40 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO (t3840)
Hero (Button) (t1565)
SB (t2035)
BB (t2495)
UTG (t1530)
MP (t2035)

Hero's M: 10.43

Preflop: Hero is Button with ,
2 folds, CO raises to t300, Hero raises to t1565 (All-In), 2 folds, CO calls t1265

Flop: (t3280) , , (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t3280) (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t3280) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t3280


Hand 8

This guy was shoving literally every hand pre-flop as soon as blinds went to 50/100. I let 33 and 44 go because there were still opp's to act behind and i didnt want to get caught in a 3-way pot with them, though as it turned out nobdy called. I wanted to wait for 88+, AT+

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00+$0.40 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button (t6175)
SB (t2450)
Hero (BB) (t1660)
UTG (t1175)
MP (t635)
CO (t1405)

Hero's M: 7.38

Preflop: Hero is BB with ,
3 folds, Button raises to t6175 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls t1510 (All-In)

Flop: (t3395) , , (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t3395) (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t3395) (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t3395

[baudib]

I think I've lost 21 in a row before, but I really suck.

[taipan168]

I think I've run 14-15 in a row OOTM, so don't stress about 8. I have had 40 buyin downswings as well.

Hand 1 (JJ) - 100 preflop, keeps the pot a bit smaller. Flop bet is good but I check behind on the turn and check/call the river provided it isn't an A.

Hand 2 (AKo) - you already posted it, reshove preflop

Hand 3 (QQ) - kind of sucks to be taken to value town like this and there isn't a lot that you beat, but I probably play it the same. The point to fold would be on the turn if you were going to fold at any stage.

Hand 4 (88) - fine

Hand 5 (QQ) - absolutely fine

Hand 6 (99) - this is fine too

Hand 7 (88) - fine with your read, you have some fold equity here too

Hand 8 (AA) - not sure what you want me to say here, it seems like a bad beat post. Definitely fold hands like 33 and 44 though, even if he is shoving total crap you're mostly either flipping or dominated and there's no need to take that risk with >10x BB when you're not in the blinds.

[baudib]

Hand 8: Fold preflop.

[Danh Bai]

Hand 8: Fold preflop.

Just after this post KTo and A4s shoved over my raise with AA - I honestly hesitated and considered folding against 2 opps

[taipan168]

Hand 8: Fold preflop.

Just after this post KTo and A4s shoved over my raise with AA - I honestly hesitated and considered folding against 2 opps

Tilt:

equity win tie
Hand 0: 13.620% 13.51% 00.11% { KTo }
Hand 1: 13.002% 12.53% 00.48% { A4s }
Hand 2: 73.378% 72.90% 00.48% { AA }

[fdnypoker]

Happens. Variance stinks.

Hand 1 - I check behind on the turn. Do not like getting broke with JJ

Hand 8 - This is the hand that will put you on tilt and make you wonder why you play cards! Can help it after you get it in with aces.

[Danh Bai]

Happens. Variance stinks.

Hand 1 - I check behind on the turn. Do not like getting broke with JJ

Hand 8 - This is the hand that will put you on tilt and make you wonder why you play cards! Can help it after you get it in with aces.

Hand 1 - he actually made his set on the river! He called me all the way with 7's

Yeah, it's just been this whole weekend. 90% of the time i get a big pocket pair i've been losing. Just got KK blasted twice by 63h and then T4s. by I'm realizing the trend is they will not fold suited trash and then they hit 2 pair or better. Maybe I need to be raising more?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00+$0.40 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button (t1690)
SB (t2160)
BB (t3170)
UTG (t1550)
MP (t1710)
Hero (CO) (t3220)

Hero's M: 14.31

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, K
2 folds, Hero raises to t450, 2 folds, BB calls t300

[Jack Sawyer]

I just can't believe how badly I'm running. I've lost the last 8(!) sng's in a row.

meh.
I've had spells in which I lose 20 straight. nothing to even bat an eye at.
i've also had spells in which i've placed in 20 straight. again, nothing to bat an eye at.

be prepared bankrollwise, and you will be able to weather any of those random yet inevitable storms.

[fdnypoker]

He made his set but there was 1 overcard and a str8 on the turn. No need to go broke early and call his AI on the river. His reange could include KJ, maybe a 9, a Q......Blinds still low where you have plenty of life left

[gingerwizard]

I busted 8 in a row yesterday and gave up.

The highlights of my bad running were the 3 on the river that cracked my AA vs 33 and the 42o that pushed into my QQ on the bubble.

It happens, and it stinks. You did the right thing in reviewing your games and posting.

Thats how you win long term

[taipan168]

On your KK hand, I think your raise is fine. No need to raise more (unless you have a specific read that one or more players still to act is a TOTAL donk who will call any size raise with any crap in which case you should shove).

[Roco415]

8 really isnt anything to worry about, its just brutal...

ive def shared those emotions and next session expected to get sucked out on and am quickly humbled as i pull 3 outer after 3 outer..the goal is in the long run and you shouldnt get discouraged after one session

[fdnypoker]

Danh...just looking at my PokerTracker stats trying to figure out where I am leaking gas lately. I bubbled 6 of last 9 with a first and second mixed in. Will be posting a few bubble hands. This is just another example of variance at it's best.

[Danh Bai]

Ok, glad to know it's not just me who's lost a bunch in a row.

I had one yesterday with a field of true donks. Then these hands happen back to back:

FTR Hand History Converter Output (intended for copying and pasting into poker forums!):
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00+$0.40 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO (t2960)
Button (t2305)
Hero (SB) (t3125)
BB (t2530)
UTG (t1905)
MP (t675)

Hero's M: 13.89

Preflop: Hero is SB with ,
3 folds, Button raises to t450, Hero raises to t1200, 2 folds

Total pot: t1050


Very next hand, same opp:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00+$0.40 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP (t2960)
CO (t1855)
Hero (Button) (t3725)
SB (t2380)
BB (t1905)
UTG (t675)

Hero's M: 16.56

Preflop: Hero is Button with ,
2 folds, CO raises to t450, Hero raises to t3725 (All-In), 2 folds, CO calls t1405 (All-In)

Flop: (t3935) , , (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t3935) (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t3935) (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t3935

Results:
Hero had K, K (one pair, Kings).
CO had K, J (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: CO won t3935


I worked really hard not to tilt after that, but to pick my spots wisely. By the time the bubble came i had regained a nice lead and they learned there was no limping allowed, I had them folding like little girls and getting walked most orbits. It came down to me and the KJ guy and I one-two punched him to take him down in 3 hands heads up.

Anyway, the point is this game reminded me that skill is going to come out on top in the end(not saying I'm that I'm that skilled, but I have learned a lot here on the forum, and def play better than the donks i was facing here).

[fdnypoker]

Yikes that flush hand is ugly. Keep playing solid cards/position. You will get past it.

[bigspenda73]

do you realize how strong you look 3betting to 1200 instead of shoving in the first one?

[Jack Sawyer]

Hero (Button) (t3725)

6-handed.

LOL, how can you tilt?

if its entitlement you are after "I GOTZ TO WIN EVRY POTS WHEN I GOTZ DEM PREMIUMS" your tiltiness will be an all to familiar affair for you.

[Jack Sawyer]

Yikes that flush hand is ugly. Keep playing solid cards/position. You will get past it.

No. I like the action of the hand.

[baudib]

I agree. I love the shove with KK because villain is going to look you up very light after you three-bet him the previous hand. And he did. Fkin awesome getting it in up 9-1.

[gingerwizard]

Serious point made earlier. Shoving looks weaker than 3betting to 1200.

Do you want to look weak or strong?

[baudib]

Is it bad to 3-bet with QQ?

[Danh Bai]

Do you want to look weak or strong?

With the QQ or the KK or both?

I had been watching him and the cards he'd been playing and I thought I had a stronger hand than him. If he wanted to see a flop to pair his A or K he was going to pay for it. If he shoved over I was calling. If he folded then i took down some chips right there without even worrying about an A/K flop. If he just called and the flop was a good one, then I had a nice big pot built. That was my line of thinking. Then when the KK came next hand I knew he wouldn't be able to fold to me again.

[Danh Bai]

Hero (Button) (t3725)

6-handed.

LOL, how can you tilt?

if its entitlement you are after "I GOTZ TO WIN EVRY POTS WHEN I GOTZ DEM PREMIUMS" your tiltiness will be an all to familiar affair for you.

Point taken

[fdnypoker]

If you raise to 1200 with the QQ, opp calls and the flop comes A-K-8 or even A-2-5 and opp pushes do you call?

[Danh Bai]

Yeah that would be ugly. Prob let the time run alll the way down and fold

[Roco415]

Hero (Button) (t3725)

6-handed.

LOL, how can you tilt?

if its entitlement you are after "I GOTZ TO WIN EVRY POTS WHEN I GOTZ DEM PREMIUMS" your tiltiness will be an all to familiar affair for you.

im by no means saying i expect to win with premiums, i lose with them in what seem to be more shocking ways all the time. However it is extremely frustrating when you lose with them in a terrible way.

For example, i have QQ over raise because i know this one player will call out of position, flop comes J22 and this guy finds a way to get it all in with J10 against the queens and low and behold rivers the J. Now this would be fine except when you think about the fact that it is so common to lose chips to the worst player and then hands later they doubled up the much better players at the table.

I understand these frustrations, ive gotten over the tilt from variance of simple probabilities of showdown value, i still am workin on getting better at handling all situations and remaining stolid.