SNGO for $26 Tournament Chip: KK with 3 all-ins in front

[rudefella]

Can I fold KK here? 6 players left, top three get tournament chips, three players all-in in front of me. There has been a lot of shoving.

Blinds: 120/240 -
Seat 1: Hero (2,220)
Seat 2: mintgreen (1,908)
Seat 3: baRbiefrOmTv (3,240)
Seat 4: franciscol87 (2,524)
Seat 6: theyamaca (2,645)
Seat 9: bearbuck (963)
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Kc Kh]
mintgreen folds
baRbiefrOmTv raises to 3,240, and is all in
franciscol87 folds
theyamaca calls 2,645, and is all in
bearbuck calls 843, and is all in
Hero?


Reasons to fold: there is the possibility of 2 players being knocked out or severely crippled, and two of the all-ins have me covered. The chance of losing to one of 3 random hands is high. Only player to be really scared of is BarbiefromTV, since she has the biggest stacked and called an all-in for 2/3 of her stack. Her range is probably JJ+, AKs+. Surviving is more important than accumulating chips.

Reasons to Call: Good chance that I have the best hand AND many of the aces may be dead between them. Franciscos and bearbuck's ranges are large. Fransisco has been shoving a lot - probably any JTs+, 22+, A5s+. Two hands prior, francisco shoved with T3o when someone called with Q5 and doubled him up. Bearbucks range as short stack is probably about the same, but maybe not the baby pairs or weaker suited broadways.

[fdnypoker]

I think I try to survive. One pair, albeit KK, doesn't play well vs 3 random hands as you said. Would like to know outcome.

[rudefella]

Yeah I made the mistake of deciding I was going to be all-in after the first person moved in, and didn't take the time to rethink what was best after the next 2 did. I think I make that mistake a lot -- decide what I'm going to do after some early action and fail to reconsider after some more action. I think if it was a normally structured sngo, I would call with the KK.

I think now the right decision is to fold no matter what the outcome was because top 3 are all the same. It turns out the hands I was up against in the order they went all-in were QJo, AA, and 98s.

[taipan168]

I tried to run this in SNG Wiz but the pot was too multiway for it to work. Nonetheless, I do think that in this case a fold is the right answer because the amount of equity that you gain by tripling up is not all that great compared to the equity you lose by being knocked out here.

[TLR]

I dont think I am folding here, if you had a bigger stack its a fold, but you can easily find yourself with 5 players when you are all around even stacks, while winning this hand will set you to the final table.
While it is 3 all ins you really can ignore the short stacked one, even if he wins and you win the sidepot you are in a better spot then you were before

[Sprayed]

I believe that this depends on the ranges, but I don't think that you could go wrong with a call. I like TLR's analysis.

[rudefella]

I don't think his analysis can be right, since his analysis says something about a final table. This is a one table sit and go where the top three all get the same prize - a $26 tournament chip. There is no advantage to accumulating more chips than necessary to make it into the top 3 (play stops there), but huge advantages to having people knocked out.

As I said before, I think calling is probably right in a MTT or a normally structured sit and go; both where accumulating chips is more worth the risk of being knocked out (than it is in the satellite situation), and where having players knocked out doesn't significantly improve your equity.

[Poker Orifice]

I'd be concerned with the 2nd player to call AI in this hand (which indeed turned out to be AA), as they are in good shape so why would they be risking here?
Still... a tough spot and a tough fold. Had something similiar happen with myself last night and decided to call, hoping/believing that the Aces would be covered between them.... case A hits and out I go, lol.