jj utg vs reraise

[fulksy]

couple questions, should i just shove this utg with 13 bb, if not is 300 the right raise? and do i have to call his reraise? what would his standard range be for a reraise here he wasn't overly loose and has shown some decent hands for some big pots.


No Limit Holdem Tournament
$5 + $0.50 Sit & Go
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero (1365)
UTG+1 Innocent4000 (1045)
CO Harteau (1505)
BTN Tips666 (1210)
SB humbertoallin (6160)
BB spfeifer22 (2215)

Blinds: 50/100

Pre-flop: (150, 6 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises to 300, 3 folds, humbertoallin raises to 1,000, 1 fold, Hero goes all-in 1,365, humbertoallin calls 365

[taipan168]

Seems absolutely fine to me. If opp woke up with QQ+ then that's just too bad.

As to your questions:
- Should you just shove with 13.5x BB? If your stack was just a little bit shorter I would just shove it, but here I think a standard raise is slightly better. I do not hate shoving though.
- Is 300 the right raise? I probably make it 250 to go with your stack size, if you get flat called and you have to give up on the flop you save 50 chips.
- Do you have to call his shove? Absolutely, as I said above if he wakes up with QQ+ then that's just too bad.
- What might opp's re-raise range be? With the reads you describe, I would say 88+, AQ+ and you're solidly ahead of that range taking the dead chips in the pot into account.

[baudib]

I'm not happy with that raise but with this stack size I'm never B/F JJ preflop.

[Rage2100]

I'd play this hand the same way you did, apart from I'd make it 250 pre-flop, like taipan said.

[DoanDiggy]

I personally make it 300 UTG. In later position I can see 250 or so, but with JJ I don't want to invite half the table along.

[fulksy]

great, thank just curious what is the min i can call with 10-10?

[taipan168]

great, thank just curious what is the min i can call with 10-10?

Not sure I get what you are asking?

[baudib]

I'd have a hard time folding anything I'm raising here, but I'm probablyn only raising 99+/AQ+.

[fulksy]

baudib kinda answered my question. but i was wondering say if i raised utg with 10-10, 9-9, AQ etc. would i have to call the reraise shove. or can i fold any of my raising range.

like baudib said, i assume AJ 88etc is a fold utg here.

[taipan168]

Personally with your stack size, I would just open shove hands like 99-TT and AQ+ and only standard raise hands that I'd be happy to call a shove with like JJ/QQ+. Haven't run it in SNG Wiz but from memory 88 is very close either way.

[DoanDiggy]

I agree 100% with taipan here on shoving 99-TT and AQ.

I might raise/fold a few hands if the blinds are going up soon. Hands like A9s, AT, AJ, KQ, maybe KJs and 77-88. A lot of times you take down the blinds, but if you get flatted, you are pretty much committed to making the go-and-go and will have to shove most flops. Obviously if you get shoved over, you cringe and fold. I'm sure taipan will disagree, but it all depends on how desperate you're feeling with your 9M stack.

[taipan168]

I might raise/fold a few hands if the blinds are going up soon. Hands like A9s, AT, AJ, KQ, maybe KJs and 77-88. A lot of times you take down the blinds, but if you get flatted, you are pretty much committed to making the go-and-go and will have to shove most flops. Obviously if you get shoved over, you cringe and fold. I'm sure taipan will disagree, but it all depends on how desperate you're feeling with your 9M stack.

I think raise/folding for 20-25% of your stack is bad play. I don't want to raise anything here that I'm not going to call a shove with, and if I wouldn't feel comfortable calling a shove then I'd either fold (the weaker hands like A9-AJ, KJ-KQ and 77) or shove myself (AQ-AK, 88-TT).

[DoanDiggy]

I just feel like if we raise/fold, we're not in a much worse spot. We still have about 10BB. We get a lot of credit since we're short stacked and UTG. Taking down the blinds increases our stack by more than 10% and actually makes a worthwhile change to our situation, putting us above 10M and in 3rd place before we go through the blinds.

It's just that personally when I'm in this sort of situation, I feel like it's about time to make a play. And like I said, this is a play that I make if the blinds are going up soon, within a couple minutes. If the blinds have just gone up, I'm still patient and I'm playing exactly the way you've talked about -- raise/calling JJ+, maybe AK (I've seen too many people shove Ax over a short stack raise) and open shoving AQ, 99-TT (88 is a tough spot, but I probably fold UTG).

And this might not be important in a $5.50 SNG, but I like the idea of balancing our raising range a bit. If we're only raise/calling and only with monsters, we have a strategy that can be exploited. If we throw in a couple other hands, we might get more action on our monsters and/or more credit on our weaker hands.

[taipan168]

We get a lot of credit since we're short stacked and UTG.

I feel like it's about time to make a play.

And this might not be important in a $5.50 SNG, but I like the idea of balancing our raising range a bit. If we're only raise/calling and only with monsters, we have a strategy that can be exploited. If we throw in a couple other hands, we might get more action on our monsters and/or more credit on our weaker hands.

You're way overthinking your strategy for low buyin SNGs. 99% of these guys are just playing their cards. It doesn't matter if you haven't played a hand all tourney, if you pick up AA and raise it, you'll get called if they have anything they think is half decent, be it 22, QJo, 98s or whatever.

At low buyin SNGs, these players are often so bad that there are so many opportunities to get it in with the best hand that you can afford to give up tricky plays like raising UTG with KJs, getting called, flop comes 972 rainbow, you go-and-go and get called by A7o.

[DoanDiggy]

You're right. I'm way overthinking here. Most people probably don't even look at the stack before making the call, so there's no such thing as taking advantage of the fact that you're showing a lot of strength.

[givememyleg]

nice hand

[baudib]

gg