Insta call

[chrisav74]

9th hand of the tourney no real reads, for what it's worth villian is 36/0. Is anyone folding here? Sorry if this is a no brainer, but I am a bit of a newbie.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00+$0.40 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO (t1450)
Hero (Button) (t1380)
SB (t1550)
BB (t1700)
UTG (t1390)
MP1 (t1560)
MP2 (t3100)

Hero's M: 46.00

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J
UTG calls t20, 4 folds, Hero raises to t140, 2 folds, UTG calls t120

Flop: (t310) 9, 8, 7 (2 players)
UTG bets t1250 (All-In), Hero ........

[Danh Bai]

Yeah, this sucks. With him trying to limp in I'd be afraid of a set of 77's or sc's hitting 2 pair...could easily have Q-A9 though. I'd probably let it go with the blinds being so small.

[drmcboy]

call

Danh Bai
run some ranges, also ask yourself how often a set plays like this.

[baudib]

Yeah I instacall this. I never expect to see a set here. I think it's 66, AP or AT far more often.

[Danh Bai]

Yeah, I think i fold too much in situations like this, but so many times when i call they've got 2 pair to my overpair. And, no I wouldn't play a set like that, I wouldn't want to blow him out of the pot. Anyway, I'm a newbie too, so i'm learning.

[drmcboy]

of course you don't want them to have two pair but:

people flop two pair like 2% of the time

It's easy for them to have a combo draw instead like T9 or T7

you aren't a huge dog to two pair

Board: 9h 8s 7c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 61.355% 60.15% 01.20% 32157 643.50 { 87s, 87o }
Hand 1: 38.645% 37.44% 01.20% 20016 643.50 { JJ }

[DoanDiggy]

you aren't a huge dog to two pair

Good point. Because we have JJ on this board, we have plenty of outs to any hand that is beating us: about 5 outs to a flopped straight, 6 outs to a flopped set or overpair, and about 11 outs to 2 pair. Moreover, we have blockers (we're blocking the top end of the straight for any OESD) to any combo draw that is shoving here. This should definitely be a call.

[Squeaky_Midget1]

I think it's 66, AP or AT far more often.

I dont know how often i put AP into someones range....Maybe Ace P suited...

If this is a $4.40 180 man i have my mouse hovering over the call all-in button here! I understand the importance of calculating ranges and equity in these spots but I think you have to really understand the game play in the $4.40/180 and with the ridiculousness of the early stages in this tournament JJ is like the nuts here. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if villain has 22,33, KJ or even 92o in this spot.

[chardrian]

you have 2 of his outs counterfeited if he has the T, and you have 4 extra outs yourself if he doesn't. I call here.

[chrisav74]

I called. He turned over 6h 4h and rivered the 5.

I didn't post this because I lost but because I thought long and hard about the call and thought it was an interesting one for early on in a tourney. I figured he had AA,KK,TT or 66 mainly because of the UTG limp/call, then panicked (AA, KK) semi bluffed (TT, 66) with that board and shoved.

Hand 0: 50.960% 00.86% 11904 204.00 { JcJd }
Hand 1: 49.040% 00.86% 11448 204.00 { KK+, TT, 66 }

[Pino_Diablo]

I called. He turned over 6h 4h and rivered the 5.

I didn't post this because I lost but because I thought long and hard about the call and thought it was an interesting one for early on in a tourney. I figured he had AA,KK,TT or 66 mainly because of the UTG limp/call, then panicked (AA, KK) semi bluffed (TT, 66) with that board and shoved.

Hand 0: 50.960% 00.86% 11904 204.00 { JcJd }
Hand 1: 49.040% 00.86% 11448 204.00 { KK+, TT, 66 }

with Monday morning quarterbacking it's obvious what you SHOULD have done, yet you also should have folded in the beginning. i fail to see the advantage in going to the river all-in after a flop w/o the nuts or near nuts, regardless of what the donk caught on the river, especially EARLY in a tournament.

[chardrian]

why would you not include hands like 9T, 8T, 67 etc. in his range?

[DoanDiggy]

with Monday morning quarterbacking it's obvious what you SHOULD have done, yet you also should have folded in the beginning. i fail to see the advantage in going to the river all-in after a flop w/o the nuts or near nuts, regardless of what the donk caught on the river, especially EARLY in a tournament.

Because we're ahead of villain's range and we have outs to the nuts ourselves?

[baudib]

with Monday morning quarterbacking it's obvious what you SHOULD have done, yet you also should have folded in the beginning. i fail to see the advantage in going to the river all-in after a flop w/o the nuts or near nuts, regardless of what the donk caught on the river, especially EARLY in a tournament.

This is awesomely wrong.