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    Default Probably a really simple hand but...

    Opp is a bad nit in this example. Obv its a simple check down vs a station but whats everyone first thought when you see these types of flops. Spewtards think barrel and nits think showdown??

    $0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
    6 players
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    Stacks:
    UTG OMGUSHOVE ($105.84)
    UTG+1 Antoni_H ($91.68)
    CO bomboneraX ($100.00)
    BTN Hero ($99.00)
    SB proxi ($98.00)
    BB Mr-T ($101.00)

    Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BTN
    3 folds, Hero raises to $3, proxi calls $2.50, 1 fold

    Flop: ($7, 2 players)
    proxi checks, Hero ($96)?
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    <Stacks> here from a ABCD theorem standpoint I would think 33 is bordering on range C/Range D.

    <Muzzlby> agree
    <Stacks> We obviously can't really bet for value. So it's either abet because we don't have a lot of equity and would rather take the pot down against villains unmade hands, or check it and fold to aggression.
    <XTR> delayed cbet on overcards rolling off
    <Stacks> I think 33 is closer to D because the hands villain is c/cing or likely c/raising with we don't look good against. If he c/c a FD he has 36% equity.. If he c/c with a larger pair we have little equity.
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    mm yah i like either cbetting or c/f, obv giving up after our cbet fails, but id probably lean more towards c/f most of the time
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    my intial thoughts are that simply cbetting and giving up is bad tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    my intial thoughts are that simply cbetting and giving up is bad tho
    yeah, I thnk u have to double barrel here if you bet flop, if you have 33 or QJ or whatever
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    lol my additional thoughts are if turn and riv are blank to we have to 3 barrel

    if we arent then our turn bet sizing should be larger than usual?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    lol my additional thoughts are if turn and riv are blank to we have to 3 barrel

    if we arent then our turn bet sizing should be larger than usual?
    yeah I think three barrelling is ok, given the fact he's a nit. I dont think he c/c's much on two streets, that can call a river shovel or big bet. Unless you have history of 3barreling or he likes to c/c 2 streets with the uber nuts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    my intial thoughts are that simply cbetting and giving up is bad tho
    I agree with this, and think that you should c-bet and double barrel every card if called on the flop, and if he calls twice triple barrel scary river cards.
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    you should c/f some % and cbet/barrel every street if a high card comes some %.
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