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Stars $3.40. Do I push the second hand?

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  1. #1

    Default Stars $3.40. Do I push the second hand?

    These are consecutive hands. Should the shove in the first hand change my action in the second hand? The table wasn't particularly loose or tight.


    -----Hand 1-----
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00+$0.40 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP1 (t1505)
    MP2 (t855)
    CO (t1090)
    Button (t3750)
    SB (t1665)
    BB (t2265)
    UTG (t2790)
    Hero (UTG+1) (t1080)

    Hero's M: 4.80

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, J
    1 fold, Hero raises to t1080 (All-In), 6 folds

    Total pot: t375


    -----Hand 2-----
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00+$0.40 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG+1 (t1505)
    MP1 (t855)
    MP2 (t1090)
    CO (t3750)
    Button (t1590)
    SB (t2115)
    BB (t2790)
    Hero (UTG) (t1305)

    Hero's M: 5.80

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9, 9
    Hero ??
  2. #2
    I guess you mean because maybe people will call with a few more flip hands? I can't believe that changes the equation much, plus they also may add in weaker As and/or PPs.
  3. #3
    Yes with an aggressive play going all in with AJ and getting no callers the slow play with a pocket pair is looking promising and would catch them off guard.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by drmcboy
    Quote Originally Posted by Rage2100
    Should the shove in the first hand change my action in the second hand?
    I guess you mean because maybe people will call with a few more flip hands?
    Yes, people seem to call more often with hands like KJ, QJ, etc., when you push twice in a row. I don't know why they do this, but they do.
  5. #5
    stacks are screwed up cos there's too many chips on the table. If the other stacks are right BB should have 1140.

    In that case I have it at a push with the later stacks loosened up on WIZ. 88+, AQ, AJs+
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  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by gingerwizard
    stacks are screwed up cos there's too many chips on the table.
    Sorry, this was a $3.40. I've edited original post now, so it should all be ok.
  7. #7
    I haven't run it in SNG Wiz, but my guess is that it is an unexploitable shove (ie. it is +EV whether opps call loose or tight). Now, just because it's +EV doesn't mean that shoving is the best option, but I definitely think it is here.
  8. #8
    according to your shortstack i think both hand aj and pocket 99 are strong enough to make an all in decision... also the blinds are high and if you just raise for example with 99 you will be pot comitted and if you didnt hit 9 on the flop, folding is not an option...
  9. #9
    Doesn't +EV in WIZ refer to an expectation of pushing that is greater than one of folding? Hence (with stacks) pushing is right if it's +EV
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  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by gingerwizard
    Doesn't +EV in WIZ refer to an expectation of pushing that is greater than one of folding? Hence (with stacks) pushing is right if it's +EV
    Yes you're right, the only reason I mentioned it is that people should not assume that a decision that is +EV is always the best possible decision. In this case with 10x BB there is really no other choice.

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