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    Default TT flops an overpair ($27)

    I know the preflop limp is debatable, but it's usually my preferred course of action from EP (for the record, I don't hate raising either and mix it up a bit).

    As played, how is my flop play? I gotta figure I'm beat after opp (effectively) shoves over, right?

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    MP1 (t1510)
    MP2 (t3145)
    CO (t1165)
    Button (t1575)
    SB (t1620)
    BB (t3015)
    Hero (UTG) (t1470)

    Hero's M: 32.67

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with 10, 10
    Hero calls t30, 1 fold, MP2 raises to t150, CO calls t150, 3 folds, Hero calls t120

    Flop: (t495) 8, 3, 4 (3 players)
    Hero bets t250, 1 fold, CO raises to t930, Hero ????
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    I don't like the lead. Why fold out potential continuation bets from MP1. I CRAI.

    As played this looks like a call (well push over). I think it's a FD more than it's a set, and it's almost never JJ+.

    765 into what is effectively 1760 is easily good enough for me here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gingerwizard
    I don't like the lead. Why fold out potential continuation bets from MP1. I CRAI.

    As played this looks like a call (well push over). I think it's a FD more than it's a set, and it's almost never JJ+.

    765 into what is effectively 1760 is easily good enough for me here.
    Not disagreeing with you completely but why do you feel its almost never JJ or better? He called a 5x bet pre with you still to act. I very well might play this hand this way if I had JJ or QQ here and wanted to try and triple up with a dry flop or nor risk the whole tourney this early with J's or Q's in a (possible) multi-way pot. Figures KK reraises pre but hell could he could have KK or AA and was slowplaying them since he has position and raiser in front (and is short stacked). $27's are out of my league as of now (usually the $5.50's or $11's for me) so maybe I'm way off here. Just to think that its almost never JJ+ seems a tad strong to me. Tai set me straight...


    Oh, and I like the lead out. If I can win this pot right now I'm happy. still a very shaky hand and its the best flop that you could have hoped for. Leading out gives the original raiser pause I think and might push him off the draw and shorty isn't commited to this pot. I feel I may be ahead here but I really don't want to see the turn and river. Any paint or club scares me.

    As played I flip the mental coin and call I guess. Really couldn't ask for much better flop. But doesn't surprise me if I lose this by the river.
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    CO more likely to shove JJ+ preflop than to call off over 10% of stack. Of course almost never is not never
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    Oh and why push them off a draw before they've had chance to bet it?
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  6. #6
    shove as played of course, CO is clearly awful and could have anything.

    After the limp I think your best option is to shove over pre.

    If you're looking to get away from an over pair post flop (esp vs the cold caller!!??) just fold pre flop.
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    I would have let him cbet then came over the top.
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