Frustrating HU session, any suggestions?

[taipan168]

Below is the HU section from a tourney I played recently where opp would shove over very frequently when I raised from the SB/button. Any suggestions as to how I could play better?

-----Hand 13-----
Hero's M = 16.85
PokerStars Game #23954098357: Tournament #134371021, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/01/16 8:41:24 ET
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '134371021 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: 27cent (7200 in chips)
Seat 6: Feitsch (1245 in chips)
Seat 9: taipan168 (5055 in chips)
taipan168: posts small blind 100
27cent: posts big blind 200
Preflop: taipan168 dealt A Q
Feitsch: folds
taipan168: raises 300 to 500

27cent: raises 6700 to 7200 and is all-in

taipan168: calls 4555 and is all-in

Uncalled bet (2145) returned to 27cent
Flop: 9 9 Q
Turn: J
River: 4
Showdown:
taipan168: shows A Q (two pair, Queens and Nines)
27cent: shows A 2 (a pair of Nines)
taipan168 collected 10110 from pot


5 4 BU (M = 33.70; F)
8 5 BB (M = 33.70; f+p+F)
J 2 SB (M = 33.03; p+F)

-----Hand 14-----
Hero's M = 32.70
PokerStars Game #23954124393: Tournament #134371021, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/01/16 8:42:49 ET
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Table '134371021 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: 27cent (3690 in chips)
Seat 9: taipan168 (9810 in chips)
taipan168: posts small blind 100
27cent: posts big blind 200
Preflop: taipan168 dealt T J
taipan168: raises 300 to 500

27cent: raises 3190 to 3690 and is all-in

taipan168: folds
Uncalled bet (3190) returned to 27cent
27cent collected 1000 from pot
27cent: doesn't show hand


7 6 BB (M = 31.03; r+F)

-----Hand 15-----
Hero's M = 30.37
PokerStars Game #23954130603: Tournament #134371021, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/01/16 8:43:09 ET
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Table '134371021 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: 27cent (4390 in chips)
Seat 9: taipan168 (9110 in chips)
taipan168: posts small blind 100
27cent: posts big blind 200
Preflop: taipan168 dealt 5 A
taipan168: raises 300 to 500

27cent: raises 3890 to 4390 and is all-in

taipan168: folds
Uncalled bet (3890) returned to 27cent
27cent collected 1000 from pot
27cent: doesn't show hand


7 A BB (Folded to taipan168.)

-----Hand 16-----
Hero's M = 29.03
PokerStars Game #23954137180: Tournament #134371021, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/01/16 8:43:31 ET
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Table '134371021 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: 27cent (4790 in chips)
Seat 9: taipan168 (8710 in chips)
taipan168: posts small blind 100
27cent: posts big blind 200
Preflop: taipan168 dealt K 3
taipan168: calls 100
27cent: checks
Flop: J 2 Q
27cent: bets 200

taipan168: folds
Uncalled bet (200) returned to 27cent
27cent collected 400 from pot
27cent: doesn't show hand


6 Q BB (Folded to taipan168.)

-----Hand 17-----
Hero's M = 28.70
PokerStars Game #23954143483: Tournament #134371021, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/01/16 8:43:51 ET
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Table '134371021 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: 27cent (4890 in chips)
Seat 9: taipan168 (8610 in chips)
taipan168: posts small blind 100
27cent: posts big blind 200
Preflop: taipan168 dealt 5 A
taipan168: raises 300 to 500

27cent: raises 4390 to 4890 and is all-in

taipan168: folds
Uncalled bet (4390) returned to 27cent
27cent collected 1000 from pot
27cent: doesn't show hand



-----Hand 18-----
Hero's M = 27.03
PokerStars Game #23954147845: Tournament #134371021, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/01/16 8:44:06 ET
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Table '134371021 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: 27cent (5390 in chips)
Seat 9: taipan168 (8110 in chips)
27cent: posts small blind 100
taipan168: posts big blind 200
Preflop: taipan168 dealt 6 T
27cent: calls 100
taipan168: checks
Flop: 2 2 8
taipan168: checks
27cent: bets 200

taipan168: folds
Uncalled bet (200) returned to 27cent
27cent collected 400 from pot
27cent: doesn't show hand


4 K SB (M = 26.37; F)
J 5 BB (Folded to taipan168.)

-----Hand 19-----
Hero's M = 26.37
PokerStars Game #23954155817: Tournament #134371021, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/01/16 8:44:32 ET
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Table '134371021 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: 27cent (5590 in chips)
Seat 9: taipan168 (7910 in chips)
taipan168: posts small blind 100
27cent: posts big blind 200
Preflop: taipan168 dealt J 6
taipan168: calls 100
27cent: checks
Flop: J 8 5
27cent: bets 400

taipan168: raises 800 to 1200

27cent: raises 4190 to 5390 and is all-in

taipan168: calls 4190
Turn: 4
River: 5
Showdown:
27cent: shows 8 5 (a full house, Fives full of Eights)
taipan168: shows J 6 (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
27cent collected 11180 from pot


Q 5 BB (Folded to taipan168.)

-----Hand 20-----
Hero's M = 6.99
PokerStars Game #23954168339: Tournament #134371021, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2009/01/16 8:45:12 ET
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Table '134371021 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: 27cent (11055 in chips)
Seat 9: taipan168 (2445 in chips)
All players post the ante 25
taipan168: posts small blind 100
27cent: posts big blind 200
Preflop: taipan168 dealt Q A
taipan168: raises 400 to 600

27cent: folds
Uncalled bet (400) returned to taipan168
taipan168 collected 450 from pot
taipan168: doesn't show hand



-----Hand 21-----
Hero's M = 7.63
PokerStars Game #23954171554: Tournament #134371021, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2009/01/16 8:45:23 ET
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Table '134371021 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: 27cent (10830 in chips)
Seat 9: taipan168 (2670 in chips)
All players post the ante 25
27cent: posts small blind 100
taipan168: posts big blind 200
Preflop: taipan168 dealt 6 K
27cent: calls 100
taipan168: checks
Flop: Q 2 6
taipan168: checks
27cent: bets 400

taipan168: folds
Uncalled bet (400) returned to 27cent
27cent collected 450 from pot
27cent: doesn't show hand



-----Hand 22-----
Hero's M = 6.99
PokerStars Game #23954176817: Tournament #134371021, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2009/01/16 8:45:40 ET
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Table '134371021 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: 27cent (11055 in chips)
Seat 9: taipan168 (2445 in chips)
All players post the ante 25
taipan168: posts small blind 100
27cent: posts big blind 200
Preflop: taipan168 dealt J J
taipan168: raises 400 to 600

27cent: calls 400
Flop: K T A
27cent: checks
taipan168: checks
Turn: 2
27cent: bets 600

taipan168: folds
Uncalled bet (600) returned to 27cent
27cent collected 1250 from pot
27cent: doesn't show hand


4 6 BB (Folded to taipan168.)

-----Hand 23-----
Hero's M = 5.56
PokerStars Game #23954189527: Tournament #134371021, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2009/01/16 8:46:21 ET
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Table '134371021 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: 27cent (11555 in chips)
Seat 9: taipan168 (1945 in chips)
All players post the ante 25
taipan168: posts small blind 100
27cent: posts big blind 200
Preflop: taipan168 dealt 9 T
taipan168: raises 1720 to 1920 and is all-in

27cent: calls 1720
Flop: 8 4 7
Turn: Q
River: 5
Showdown:
27cent: shows T A (high card Ace)
taipan168: shows 9 T (high card Queen)
27cent collected 3890 from pot

[Jack Sawyer]

Any suggestions as to how I could play better?

From birds eye view:

You got chickenshit syndrome. take a stand earlier with any A, and most live cards when in 3:1 chip advantage approx. or better

He's LOLshoving anytwo, a livid blind protector.

[baudib]

Agree, also open-shoving JJ/never folding.

[taipan168]

Agree, also open-shoving JJ/never folding.

Yep, I definitely should have open shoved the JJ. I guess I was hoping that he would shove over again, wasn't necessarily factoring in a call (but I should have been).

[mcatdog]

I think the whole thing is fine to be honest but I'd raise less with AQ and JJ, it looks weird when you've been raising 2.5x and suddenly raise 3x

Hand 15 is the only one of them that you might think about calling, Hand 17 I can't imagine he's bluffing after having shoved over your last three raises.

[baudib]

Agree, also open-shoving JJ/never folding.

Yep, I definitely should have open shoved the JJ. I guess I was hoping that he would shove over again, wasn't necessarily factoring in a call (but I should have been).

This is why I think you can't fold. He's shoving over so often there can't be too many aces in his flat-calling range.

[gingerwizard]

Hand 15 I'd call.

17 meh, surely he'd have something better now having shoved so many times previous. However I'm still pretty tempted.

Thought you played the AQ and the JJ semi-well, hoping for a shove over good, but raising more than last time I don't get.

Also the JJ hand, I think that is a weak fold on turn. He can't have many A's or K's in his range and I think he fires at this pot with everything in his range after the flop action.

[drmcboy]

limp re raise a couple times with the weak Axs

also I think the K6 fold with second pair is bad, at least call but I just shove over. If in general vs aggressive opps you're looking for better than second pair you're going to get run over.

[taipan168]

Thought you played the AQ and the JJ semi-well, hoping for a shove over good, but raising more than last time I don't get.

I usually make it 3x BB when the antes kick in at 100/200, but maybe that's wrong.

[gingerwizard]

I don't feel the need to. By that stage blinds getting preflop odds won't call with crap because playing OOP with high blinds, and shallow stacks is not desirable. Only reason I don't minraise is because it looks donkish

[drmcboy]

I would do 3 or 3.5x OOP and 2.5 IP

[gingerwizard]

Why do you want the pots bigger when OOP?

[drmcboy]

I don't, I want more folds. Also, you're raising much better hands here vs IP so the pot being larger isn't so bad

[baudib]

also harder to extract value postflop oop.

[Kijjo]

Ahh, taipan, this guy belongs to MY games. What's he doing playing up in your buy-in level?
Send him back down immediately!!!


Ok, so truthfully I play guys like this nearly every single night. As soon as it's HU they go freaking LAG crazy shoving. I usually give him the benefit of the doubt a couple hands, then start pounding the crap out of him with shoves. I know it's mathmatically wrong to shove alot of the situations I do HU, but this guy in particular doesn't factor into a normal equation. Although he's shoving, he usually doesn't want to call with crap.