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am I crazy for thinking I can value shove this? 400nl

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    Default am I crazy for thinking I can value shove this? 400nl

    Villain is a passive fish running like 27/8. I've been just pounding on him for a while. A couple of orbits ago in a similar spot to this he c/r the flop small and I folded. In this spot preflop he probably has been calling 70% folding 30%. (I'm guessing)

    Value shove?

    No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    saw flop

    UTG ($768.60)
    MP ($404)
    Button ($473.30)
    SB ($669.35)
    Hero (BB) ($642)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 2, Q
    3 folds, SB calls $2, Hero raises $16, SB calls $16

    Flop: ($40) Q, K, 7 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $30, SB calls $30

    Turn: ($100) 2 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $70, SB raises $140, Hero calls $70

    River: ($380) 8 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $452 (All-In)
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    Ugh to the 3bet pre, but I guess if he's been folding its ok.....

    I probably check back this flop a lot, cause you're gonna get raised a fair bit on a flop like this.

    As played, after his turn c/r I think he's mega polarized. He either has air, or has you owned and put you on a draw with the intention of c/c.

    I check this back... no value I don't think. You're gonna get value towned by his two pair, flush, tryin to get you to bluff.
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    i dont think shoving accomplishes a whole lot. i also dont know why youd want to pump it up pre with Q2o if hes calling 70% of the time unless you have some rock solid postflop reads
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    preflop just check it
    flop cbet is fine vs passive fish
    turn fine
    river id rather just half pot so he can call with worse, shove seems bad unless u have a soulread that he'll call it with worse
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    turn isn't a fold?

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