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AKo to UTG raise by tight player, double stacks ($27)

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  1. #1

    Default AKo to UTG raise by tight player, double stacks ($27)

    Opp's stats were 13/9 over 22 hands. What's your move?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $25+$2 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG (t2590)
    Hero (UTG+1) (t2725)
    MP1 (t910)
    MP2 (t1305)
    CO (t1780)
    Button (t1595)
    SB (t1295)
    BB (t1300)

    Hero's M: 18.17

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, K
    UTG raises to t300, Hero ????
  2. #2
    Interesting one.

    Well he doesn't exactly have monkey stats, although 22 hands is nothing, and this is a $27 so he gets more respect than average donk.

    Flatting seems ok with your stack, but with so many left to act it's probably inviting a multiway pot you don't want.

    3betting seems unnecessary. I think if you did it you'd have to call the 4bet shove which you don't want to do with this stack.

    Folding seems ok to me too. Flat or fold for me and because you have a nice stack now, I think I prefer folding.
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  3. #3
    I agree with Ginger. No need to risk too much here IMO.

    We have a nice stack, which we can make a better use of against shorties.

    If we 3-bet and get called, only reasonable hand that we beat is AQ. We will not get action postflop from AQ unless A hits (unlikely) or Q.

    On the other hand, If we flat- his range is wider and we can play against villain in position, unless it becomes multiway. A more advanced play would be to flat call in order to induce a squeeze- reverse squeeze play. If UTG villain call squeeze, we can reevaluate and probably fold, but if UTG folds we are almost always assured massive odds and good equity.

    Villains pre-flop and post flop tendencies is important in our decision. If he is weak, I like to call- if he is aggro I like to fold- because AK is not a good bluff catcher.

    I never like my FE against UTG raise versus sensible opponents.

    In these spots I like to avoid elimination and save my stack for spots with greater relative E and FE. Folding is rarely a big mistake in a tournament.
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  4. #4
    I think a range for him is something like 99-TT+, AQ+, maybe AJ

    Two lines I would consider: call and hope someone pushes over and he folds (reverse squeeze) or raise to 700/750. If he is a tight player he is going to fold a large part of the time to preserve his stack. If he pushes over, you can decide how much gamble you like to do. I probably let it go. If he calls you can re-evaluate on the flop with position, and the lead in betting. I think folding is too weak. I lean towards calling and re-evaluating after further action/flop. I don't mind multiway with AK at this point in the tourney.
  5. #5
    Seems like a simple fold to me. I didn't run the hand through SngWiz but I'd be flabbergasted if getting it in preflop showed a profit. You can't call either because of how many people are to act behind you, and how impossible it'll be to play your hand correctly on the flop. By process of elimination it's a fold.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by mcatdog
    Seems like a simple fold to me. I didn't run the hand through SngWiz but I'd be flabbergasted if getting it in preflop showed a profit. You can't call either because of how many people are to act behind you, and how impossible it'll be to play your hand correctly on the flop. By process of elimination it's a fold.
    I see your point, but are you basing your decision on the 13/9 stats? It isn't much of a sample size. If opp was a known LAGG wouldn't we be happy to get it in preflop?

    EDIT: Interesting, I ran this in SNG Wiz with opp opening 66+, A9s+, ATo+ and calling a shove with TT+, AQs+ and AKo and it was -0.4% EV.
  7. #7
    I even fold here in a MTT with 30 BB against all but the craziest LAGs so I'm just assuming it's a snap fold in a SNG. It's not that I'm THAT worried about UTG, it's mostly that getting it in vs him shows a fairly small profit, which is more than made up for by the 7 people behind us often waking up with a big pair.
  8. #8
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    Interesting spot here. I think I call here and re-evaluate on the flop (that is if I even get to see one, lol).

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