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  1. #1

    Default Bottom set against tighty

    Villain is 12/10/3 over 250 hands. I probably should've bet river and called a raise, but as played I thought I should only call.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP2 ($188)
    CO ($102.70)
    Button ($167.25)
    Hero (SB) ($229.90)
    BB ($100)
    UTG ($101.70)
    UTG+1 ($103.70)
    MP1 ($98.50)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 3, 3
    3 folds, MP2 bets $4, CO calls $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $3.50, 1 fold

    Flop: ($13) K, 3, A (3 players)
    Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks

    Turn: ($13) J (3 players)
    Hero checks, MP2 bets $9, 1 fold, Hero calls $9

    River: ($31) 9 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP2 bets $13, Hero calls $13

    Total pot: $57 | Rake: $2.75
  2. #2
    Why aren't we betting the flop for value? Sure the check is seductive and deceptive, but villain will call with a BUNCH that we beat.


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  3. #3
    i'd bet this flop.
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  4. #4
    Well I figure a c/r seems more deceptive on this kind of board since we're repping such a small range.

    Yeah, in hindsight I shoulda bet the flop though. Seems like the best play.
  5. #5
    bet flop. as played bet turn, as played check raise turn. Bet river, as played you need to raise to something... maybe minraise or just a bit more and fold to a shove, but hand is so screwed on flop turn and river that when we get the action back to us on river we're severely under-repped and it's just a weird spot.

    this hand is not good.
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    going for a c/r on the flop is standard, but you have to lead the turn when it checks around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badgers
    bet flop. as played bet turn, as played check raise turn. Bet river, as played you need to raise to something... maybe minraise or just a bit more and fold to a shove, but hand is so screwed on flop turn and river that when we get the action back to us on river we're severely under-repped and it's just a weird spot.

    this hand is not good.
    Yeah, when I got to the river I was in disgust at how I'm making so little value.. I think the fundamental mistake was definitely not betting the turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parasurama
    going for a c/r on the flop is standard, but you have to lead the turn when it checks around.
    this.
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    do everything but what you did.
    Prefer a lead on flop rather than c/r as this flop def hit a good % of his range. he may raise the flop or just choose to call - but you get a turn bet when checked too him IMO.
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    lulz leading
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    ummm no i dont really like c/r on this board cos we're repping 33 or air...
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    cool, glad I didn't say c/r

    tbh I fold PF a decent %, big leak? I think it's a pretty simple fold if there isn't a coldcaller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    cool, glad I didn't say c/r

    tbh I fold PF a decent %, big leak? I think it's a pretty simple fold if there isn't a coldcaller.
    I fold preflop a large portion of the time also. I found out a while back pps well just aren't that great, especially oop. It's harder to extract, and pps that turn into underpairs don't really make for that profitable of a bluffing range because you have so little equity when called.

    And badgers, if we are repping only 33 or air, then wouldn't a check/raise be great?

    But tbh, I'm kinda indifferent on our flop line. Leading, and check/raising both seem fine imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    cool, glad I didn't say c/r

    tbh I fold PF a decent %, big leak? I think it's a pretty simple fold if there isn't a coldcaller.
    cold caller is the only reason we are in the pot right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by badgers
    ummm no i dont really like c/r on this board cos we're repping 33 or air...
    how often do you fold when your opponent is representing one hand?
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    not often but I'm not a total nit. If we check/raise we are always getting stacked by AA/KK and not always getting it in with AK because this person is a nit. I also think we can get more value from AQ and also more value from the CO with a wider range if we lead.

    No I don't think it's a good spot to c/r bluff...
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  17. #17
    Preflop is fine
    Flop is totally fine, leading sucks
    Turn bet 3/4
    river bet 3/4 and if he raises then probably just call

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