KQs, flush on flop

[akcheng]

Hi all,

Still pretty new to poker, been playing for roughly a month. I was just interested on your input on this particular hand:

Oh another thing, this was probably one of the first 15 hands played in this SnG...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00+$0.20 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool

saw flop

SB (t3100)
BB (t1280)
UTG (t1510)
UTG+1 (t2305)
MP1 (t575)
MP2 (t2180)
Hero (CO) (t1420)
Button (t1130)

Hero's M: 31.56

Preflop: Hero is CO with Kd, Qd
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t30, 2 folds, Hero raises to t90, 2 folds, BB calls t60, UTG+1 calls t60

Flop: (t285) 4d, 7d, 6d (3 players)
BB bets t30, UTG+1 calls t30, Hero raises to t300, BB calls t270, 1 fold

Turn: (t915) 3h (2 players)
BB bets t30, Hero calls t30

River: (t975) 9s (2 players)
BB bets t860 (All-In), Hero???

Thanks.

[taipan168]

Hi and welcome to FTR, it's great to have you here!

Firstly, I would not raise preflop, rather I would just call so that we don't build a big pot.

As played, I think your flop raise is good and I raise again on the turn, make it 500-600 to go and get the rest of your chips in on the river. The reason to raise is a) for value and b) another club on the river either kills your action or kills you.

As played, definitely call, other than an ace high flush or a straight flush (very unlikely), you're beating everything else and opp shoves a lot more hands that you beat than beat you, particularly considering the weak turn action.

[tuuk2]

As played, you are certainly calling on the river. As stated earlier, there are only two hands that could possibly beat you here and both are extremely unlikely. The odds of flopping a flush are about 1%. I'm calling here and cursing if he's got me beat. Since it's a $1.20 tournament and based on his all-in on the river, I'm guessing he's got a 5 in his hand. Especially because of the weak $30 bet into a $915 pot. A lot of beginners I find like to bet small so that they can get something out of their opponent when they have the nuts. They'll either get excited and go all-in or they'll try to do min-bets to string you along.

[vennix]

I defiantly would have bet the turn and got it all in on the river. Like^^^ said you are in good position to win and only up against two hands a weak Ad_d call pre flop or suited low connectors call on pre flop both very unlikely but nice hand.

[St8ofN8]

Hi and welcome to FTR, it's great to have you here!
Firstly, I would not raise preflop, rather I would just call so that we don't build a big pot.

Snap call on this hand. And I don't mind the raise pf. Better to try to isolate with a hand like this, and I don't know why we're afraid of making the pot bigger at these stakes.

[taipan168]

And I don't mind the raise pf. Better to try to isolate with a hand like this, and I don't know why we're afraid of making the pot bigger at these stakes.

I do not think that raising preflop is terrible, but I would prefer not to build a big pot at this stage. At low buyins these donks will limp and call your raise with hands that beat you (think Ax, pocket pairs lower than QQ). I'd prefer to just call and play carefully after the flop if we flop one pair or less than a monster draw.

If we want to raise, we should raise to 120-150 to try to thin the field since UTG+1 will almost never fold for another 60 chips after limping, particularly if one or more of Button, SB or BB call the raise first.

[fulksy]

an Ace high flush almost never smooth calls your flop raise then min bets the turn. an Ace high flush draw might do this which is why i reraise the turn, and like everyone else said shove the river, your almost never behind here. i also agree with taipan i just call preflop players at these stakes are so bad when the blinds are high i don't like building big pots early. not to say its wrong thats just my opinion.

[rong]

I'm a fan of raising KQs, especially in position. Agree with Tai about making it bigger here, 120-150 is about right.

As played, no way I'm dropping that there.

[frreshprince]

i dont mind the raise at all to try and drop the blinds off the map, good flop bet, i normall would reraise the turn to 300 again, make him pay to try and catch that diamond. i think your flat call of 30 on the turn really confused your villian into thinking you were chasing the flush draw as well, and when the river didnt come as a diamond he shoved thinking easy steal. but DEF. call, esp. with these stakes its unbelivable how poorly people play.

[gingerwizard]

I don't like the raise nor it's size. You'll often be flatted by AQ and AK and lose a biggar pot than you would have if you'd have limped behind.

Also Tai if you make it 500-600 to go on the turn, villain has only 200-300 chips left for the river

[taipan168]

Also Tai if you make it 500-600 to go on the turn, villain has only 200-300 chips left for the river

True, but we have to raise the turn, we can't just call the donkminbet. Maybe 400-450 would be a better raise size?

[gingerwizard]

or shove?

[taipan168]

or shove?

I guess we have about a PSB left when we take opp's stack into account, so I guess either shoving right now or getting half in now and half in on the river would be fine.