8.80 Stars Turbo ITM AQ BB

[dumbgumby]

Is this an auto call deep in a tourney ? I was 99% sure I was behind, but I also had a feeling I had to call. Comments greatly appreciated. For some reason I can usually get ITM in MTTs, but I never really make it deep and I have a feeling it's hands like this.
I have AQs but for it won't let me post the urls ??

Poker Stars No-Limit Hold'em, $8.00+$0.80 Tournament, 750/1500 Blinds 175 Ante (9 handed) -

UTG+1 (t9190)
MP1 (t16150)
MP2 (t6718)
MP3 (t12002)
CO (t22960)
Button (t28374)
SB (t37871)
Hero (BB) (t14527)
UTG (t40369)

Hero's M: 3.80

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]
1 fold, UTG+1 bets t9015 (All-In), 1 fold, MP2 calls t6543 (All-In), MP3 raises to t11827 (All-In), 4 folds

[drmcboy]

kooky, I guess gamble.


I think you need 10 posts to post links so it should work next post

[hopeful]

I think the problem here is the low M of those involved. Hero at 3.8 really needs to get all in, assuming no big rise in prizes is close. The other two players have even lower M's. One of them is UTG + 1 probably trying to make a move before the blinds destroy his stack and take away all of his fold equity. His range likely to be wide maybe 25% of hands. Second player MP3 likely to have better hand as he will have to see all cards. Maybe top 13% (10% plus pairs and suited aces)
Equity from stove
UTG+1 29%
MP2 29%
Hero 41%. You definately have the odds, so after spending 10mins on pokerstove i agree with drmcboy gamble.

[dumbgumby]

I had a feeling I needed to call but I didn't do it. I ended up shoving a nice sc on the button and getting called by A high which held. It's nice to know when your M is low and you're getting the odds you almost have to gamble. I think that could be one of my problems with MTTs

[frreshprince]

one suggestion is if you don't want to gamble with hands like AQ late against two hands, then you shouldn't do turbos. just stick to the regular blinded tournaments. you'll generally get to see 3x as many hands because blinds go up every 15minutes instead of every 5minutes.
Otherwise turbos tend to really be an all in fest late in tourneys and who can win there flips!

[dumbgumby]

For some reason I don't do well in the non-turbo 180s but I've only played a handful. Probably going to run some more in the future.

[frreshprince]

yeah they take alot longer, average time for a non-turbo 180man is probably around 5 hours if you win it. (off the top of my head). where as turbos are what like 2 hours if you win it?
personally i find if you have the time and want to be serious about the game play non-turbos. you'll learn alot more about real play, instead of having to play SOOOO many hands and seeing SOOOO many all ins all the time.

If i could recommend some strategies for them i recently posted in the SnG section about 4.40 180 mans on pokerstars. or you can use alot of the things posted in the sticky notes on this site! all useful information to becoming a winning player!

[dumbgumby]

In your opinion do you feel the play is better at the 4.40 180s, or the 12.00 180 turbos ?

[poker3player333]

I think it greatly depends on the situation. If he was short stacked its an insta call. If he's large stack he could be shoving around the blinds. If you're big or small stack make the call, but trust your intuition.

[dumbgumby]

The thing was I was sure I was flipping, and probably good chance I was up against AK. I just wanted to know that if I know these things do I still have to call because of my low M, and the odds the pot is laying me ?