ALARMS BELLS GOING OFF???

[CorbinDallas]

tourney is 33 20k G on stars.

70 hands on villain.... 24/12 flop agg is 7.0

i haven't seen him min raise like this... but i'm playing 4 tourneys. he won all his chips in a big 3 way pot 99, QQ vs his AA. he seemed a little donkish... but whatever... look at my pic and sig.

alarm bells started blaring in my head when MR. FA=7 checked the flop.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $30+$3 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (BB) (t5994)
UTG (t5740)
UTG+1 (t16753)
MP1 (t5550)
MP2 (t13662)
CO (t5541)
Button (t3962)
SB (t9868)

Hero's M: 19.98

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6, 10
2 folds, UTG+1 bets t400, 5 folds, Hero calls t200

Flop: (t900) 6, 10, J (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks

Turn: (t900) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets t600, UTG+1 raises to t1200, Hero pukes and then??

[CorbinDallas]

this hand actually happened first and i thought i 'd post it too.

these stacks sizes were kinda awkward. this guy seemed much worse than villain in hand 1.

i guess i just fold this flop and move on? or does anyone put this guy on some goofy draw or Ax or something stupid. i felt like a moron folding to his flop bet.... then like a bigger moron for folding on the turn. is it just retarted spew to shove over his flop bet?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $30+$3 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (CO) (t7769)
Button (t3970)
SB (t5040)
BB (t18053)
UTG (t3775)
UTG+1 (t13962)
MP1 (t5541)
MP2 (t4262)
MP3 (t8968)

Hero's M: 25.90

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, A
UTG calls t200, 4 folds, Hero bets t800, 3 folds, UTG calls t600

Flop: (t1900) 4, 4, 7 (2 players)
UTG bets t975, Hero calls t975

Turn: (t3850) 2 (2 players)
UTG bets t2000 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: t3850

[mcatdog]

I wouldn't consider folding the AK hand, especially with your read. Either shove the flop or else call and call the turn. Sometimes he'll have 66 and you'll feel stupid but when a fishy player limp-calls and bets half-pot into me on a 447 flop I'm not too worried about him having anything.

T6 hand is a very easy preflop fold, there aren't even antes yet, calling is just donating money. Most of the time when you hit the flop with T6 you'll just have something weak like 2nd pair and you'll either have to make a big calldown or else this aggressive player will push you off your hand. As played I'm not too thrilled about the action but I don't see how you can do anything other than call and see what he does on the river.

[CorbinDallas]

yeah i wanted to shove that 447 flop... but thought it was spewy.... so i did something worse.... call.. then fold. good to know my instinct to shove was right.

i don't normally try to see flops with T6s... my thinking was on the line of.... min raising is donkish... hopefully its a monster... its 200 into 900 to possibly flop gin and stack KK or AA.

but then when he checked the JT flop..... i'm thinking AA or KK is gonna give me free cards?? then the raise on the turn....

[CorbinDallas]

so basically just bad calling here. 200 into 700 trying to flop gin? even if i'm getting a good price?

[drmcboy]

you flopped gin...

[CorbinDallas]

lol. yeah... flopped better than a just a T or 6.

i guess my question is does MR. AGGRO's check behind on the flop put the fear of god in you?

i got what i wanted for a flop... i'm just expecting AA KK QQ to not give me free cards on that flop.

my question is... can you fold here? or do you put him squarely on JJJ when MR AGGRO checks the 6TJ flop.

i thought about it for the about 45 seconds.... and figured it was AA KK or JJ. i told myself the whole reason i called was to stack AA or KK on this type of flop. plus... JJ is a min raise??

[drmcboy]

I agree with mcat, it's spooky but you can't fold, maybe if the river comes bad or he like turbo shoves a brick.