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  1. 04-03-2009 05:59 PM #1
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    Default what to dooo

    Initial raiser is 13/12 over 250 hands
    Re-raiser is 10/8, 4.5% 3-bet over 700 hands.

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    MP3 ($166.95)
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    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q
    5 folds, CO bets $3, Button raises to $15, Hero?
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  2. 04-03-2009 06:49 PM #2
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    get it in
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  3. 04-03-2009 07:01 PM #3
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    27/call obv.

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  4. 04-03-2009 08:37 PM #4
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    haha this is exactly like a hand redzilla posted a while back. iirc I said call>4bet/call=shove>>fold>>>>>>4bet fold.

    mcat and bb I think convinced me that a call puts our hand face up, and they're probs right.. maybe 4bet/call>call>>>fold>>>>>>>>>4bet/fold
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  5. 04-03-2009 11:25 PM #5
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    4 bet get it in obv.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbickes
    27/call obv.
    we don't look kindly upon minraises round these parts
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  7. 04-04-2009 03:03 AM #7
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    i was gonna ask about that actually. i've been giving 4-bet minraises little respect... my standard 4-bet here would be something like 38'ish.. is it too much?
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  8. 04-04-2009 10:38 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanglow
    Quote Originally Posted by Bbickes
    27/call obv.
    we don't look kindly upon minraises round these parts
    Minraise is 25 sir =). Anywhere between 27-33 is obv fine. Though I don't think anyone 4b/f's when they put 1/3 of their stack in.

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  9. 04-04-2009 11:09 AM #9
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    if i 4bet it'll be around 30ish total

    i usually call here and outplay opponent postflop
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbickes
    Minraise is 25 sir =).
    wat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by badgers
    Quote Originally Posted by Bbickes
    Minraise is 25 sir =).
    wat?
    +1
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  12. 04-05-2009 04:53 AM #12
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    minraise is 27, and if you raise much more than that it becomes obvious you're not folding so he can put you on a tighter range (which is correct here) and be less likely to make a mistake on his shove/fold decision. So minraise.
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    villians 3bet range seems fairly tight.. is there noone here who thinks folding is not a terrible thing here OOP? or is that just way too tight?

    what is 3-bet range here from this villian? wouldnt it be weighted towards AQ+, QQ+??

    seems like a tricky spot. some people think 4bet/get it in, but for others who say call, how would you play? do you donk a flop withought AorK, c/r?...
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  14. 04-06-2009 05:57 PM #14
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    I'm just calling here and seeing how the flop comes out.
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    Wow my math sucks. W.e 28 then POWER MINRAISE.

    Don't talk to me about maff =( IRC knows this atleast =(

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  16. 04-06-2009 07:25 PM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbickes
    Wow my math sucks. W.e 28 then POWER MINRAISE.

    Don't talk to me about maff =( IRC knows this atleast =(
    I haff it on good authorities it is idiotic anywayz.
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    i think you should fold this
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  18. 04-07-2009 05:25 PM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by nutsinho
    i think you should fold this
    you're the only one to say this.. which i ended up doing
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    Quote Originally Posted by mxiu
    Quote Originally Posted by nutsinho
    i think you should fold this
    you're the only one to say this.. which i ended up doing
    I'm not folding.
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  20. 04-07-2009 09:11 PM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by nutsinho
    i think you should fold this
    4.5% 3bet is actually pretty loose imo.
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  21. 04-07-2009 09:13 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanglow
    Quote Originally Posted by nutsinho
    i think you should fold this
    4.5% 3bet is actually pretty loose imo.
    it is, but i just didnt know what to make of the 5x reraise
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