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2/4 - 2nd nuts facing weird river c/r

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    Default 2/4 - 2nd nuts facing weird river c/r

    Lot of history with villain, he runs 27/23/3.6 over a lot of hands, steals from the sb 35%. Pre-flop we battle a lot and he's a bit spewy. Post-flop he's aggro and still a bit spewy, but not as bad. Definitely a winning player at these stakes. He probably views me as solid and aggro, I've gotten the better of him for the most part.

    This is a weird spot for him to c/r because obviously I don't expect him to play a K this way very often but he knows that and prob expects me to look him up light.

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    saw flop

    SB ($604)
    Hero (BB) ($521)
    UTG ($335.10)
    MP ($89.10)
    Button ($558.30)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 8, A
    3 folds, SB bets $16, Hero calls $12

    Flop: ($32) 8, K, 5 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $24, SB calls $24

    Turn: ($80) 8 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $56, SB calls $56

    River: ($192) K (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $150, SB raises to $508 (All-In), Hero... ($275 to call)
  2. #2
    I don't see why he can't have a K a lot here given the aggro dynamic between you. He probably expects you to barrel a lot of streets if he c/c the flop with a K.
  3. #3
    Also he's not value raising for sure and this is a really bad spot to bluff (and most people aren't another level up afaik) so I'm probably going to fold here if I'm you.
  4. #4
    Yeah its def a spot where he can check a K 3x to induce bluffs...

    there is no way he is bluffing here and thats all you beat.. id fold
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    Is there value betting this river?
    Just dipping my toes back in.
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    definitely fold...

    It wouldn't be a terrible bluff though by him.
  7. #7
    Fold, who is gonna bluff here
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    Do you not like to checkback this river? I mean getting C/R'd is gross and I doubt your ever getting called by worse.

    Be rather nice if he C/R'd missed hearts here.
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    I'd fold, but I think it's a pretty std vb on the river.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketfours
    I'd fold, but I think it's a pretty std vb on the river.
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  11. #11
    River bet too big? This is a very polarized board, I think hero should be making a lot of 1/3 pot bets here.
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    ur river bet is like a bluff to fold a chop. id check
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    Can't he look us up with 99+ too?
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  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by nutsinho
    ur river bet is like a bluff to fold a chop. id check
    So, can we balance a smaller bet?
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    ya this looks like a K a really big % of the time
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    and comon... we gotta v bet this river 100% of the time vs this villain
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?

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