Multi-tabling.

[rspeirsmlb]

Any multi-tablers who would like to discuss their strategies? i've been pondering this subject for some time. To start, I love sit-n-gos and consider myself to be pretty decent at them. Currently I'm working on a bankroll and would just like some input. I'm surely not ready to be mulit-tabling 5-20 tables like the extremists...but I just have a few questions to those of you who are successful at it.

-I know multi-tabling decreases ability to keep track of everyone's playing style, but how does you're playing strategy differ from single tabling otherwise? Do you only play top 19 hands?

-I've never seen someone do more than 4 at a time, including myself....it seems like it would be damn near impossible to get the right reads on people, unless you're the rain man!

-I'de like to hear peoples' results, and playing styles, as I'd like to try it out down the road.

-Are you constantly calculating value bets on 5+ tables? (seems impossible!)

Just things like that I'de like to know more about. Hopefully within the next week, I will make my first SERIOUS deposit, for strict play and my first true shot at bankroll management and attempt to build a solid bankroll. I'm aware of bankroll management, but am implying it for the first time and am trying to become a more serious poker player at the sit-n-gos. Thanks in advance!

[taipan168]

Hi and welcome to the forum, it's good to have you here.

Multitabling is a trade-off between ROI and hourly rate. Eg. if you can earn a 10% ROI by playing one table at a time but an 8% ROI by playing two, it's clearly better to make the trade-off.

As for reads, having a heads-up display is critical if you're multitabling because as you point out, you'll never be able to get detailed reads on everybody if you're playing many tables at once. That said, SNGs (and particuarly turbo SNGs) have relatively simple decisions to make since almost all of the decisions beyond the first 2-3 levels will be whether to push or fold preflop. For this reason it's far more feasible to play 8+ tables of SNGs rather than 8+ tables of cash where stacks are deeper and the decisions therefore more complex.

Hope that helps, good luck (or rather, good skill) at the tables and hope to see you posting some hands here for comment.

[rspeirsmlb]

In terms of ROI......lets say you're playing $5+.50 SNGs. You've played a total of 100 SNG's (not multi-tabling) at this level so far. You've invested $550, and have a net profit of, let's say $55 (10% ROI). This is where I'm confused...you said if multi-tabling and having a ROI of 8%, it would be more profitable? I must have my calculations fuzzed up somewhere, because that would only be having a $44 profit. Can you explain to me the depths of this?.......Either I'm having a brain fart, or I can't do 6th grade math.

Thanks for your help, I appreciate it....my goal is to do very well in SNG's, and am looking for any help where I am confused or have any leaks in my game.
I will deposit $110 this week and start my quest to building a bankroll (will start with $5.50 single table SNGs on Bodog). It's actually pretty exciting, but I just need to be able to cope with the negative swings...(which is one of my biggest downfalls in poker [am posting a poster behind my laptop that says "DISCIPLINE!", in order to keep myself on track! haha])
Just looking for a challenge for myself, and possibly some money!

[taipan168]

In terms of ROI......lets say you're playing $5+.50 SNGs. You've played a total of 100 SNG's (not multi-tabling) at this level so far. You've invested $550, and have a net profit of, let's say $55 (10% ROI). This is where I'm confused...you said if multi-tabling and having a ROI of 8%, it would be more profitable? I must have my calculations fuzzed up somewhere, because that would only be having a $44 profit. Can you explain to me the depths of this?.......Either I'm having a brain fart, or I can't do 6th grade math.

You're not taking into account the time factor. If you play $5.50 SNGs and say it takes you an hour to play each one. At a 10% ROI you are therefore making 55c per hour. However, if you 2-table at an 8% ROI you're making ($5.50 * 0.08 * 2) = 88c per hour. So you're right that you're making less per SNG but you're making more per hour.

I will deposit $110 this week and start my quest to building a bankroll (will start with $5.50 single table SNGs on Bodog). It's actually pretty exciting, but I just need to be able to cope with the negative swings...(which is one of my biggest downfalls in poker [am posting a poster behind my laptop that says "DISCIPLINE!", in order to keep myself on track! haha])
Just looking for a challenge for myself, and possibly some money!

Make sure you take advantage of the sign up bonuses available through FTR. The other thing is that you need to pick your site carefully as not all sites give good bonuses to SNG players. Stars have a once-only 100% deposit bonus for first-time registrants and they have good SNG traffic right up to higher levels, so you should consider them. FT also has good sign-up bonuses that can be earned by SNG players and reasonable SNG traffic too.

[bjsaust]

It really does develop over time. I remember going from 1 to 2 tables and feeling lost and like I had no reads. Now I can 6-8 table and still feel like I'm picking up relevant reads. You just get better with practice I guess.

[GatorJH]

Now I can 6-8 table and still feel like I'm picking up relevant reads. You just get better with practice I guess.

yea right.

[Chopper]

tis true, guys. simply start with one or two (i first added two tables of ring games to keep me tighter and less impatient), and start adding until you get to the point you are comfortable. you will, eventually, pick up "some" reads even with several tables up. HUDs definitely help with the generic reads of loose/tight or passive/aggressive.

i started with four tables of the DONs and am now comfortably 12-tabling them. i cant do 8 STT/MTTs, though. once the action gets short, i get super lost. so, i stick with 4-6. but, eventually, i will get to 8. it just takes time and learning what to pay attention to.

you'll get there. but, you have to PUSH yourself if you decide you want the leverage.

[flomo]

last i knew bodog"s max # of tables was 4 and not sure if the site allows tracking tools. there is traffic at the lower levels on bodog but slow on the mid to high levels.

[microgrinder]

-I know multi-tabling decreases ability to keep track of everyone's playing style, but how does you're playing strategy differ from single tabling otherwise? Do you only play top 19 hands?

Well I used to be a cash game player, and just recently got back into poker after a 6 month hiatus. I decided i'd give the turbos a try on stars, so i've been playing the $6.50s. I run sets of 8 or 9 at a time. I would say I play tighter in the early stages of the tournament (levels 1-3). I wouldn't say I have a rule about which hands I play, it obv still depends on position and situation of course. Late game/bubble I probably play roughly the same TBH. Reads are really not all that important, especially at this level...they would help a little for sure, but play is pretty bad from what i've seen...it's really just a game of math in the late stages. I make very little notes about players, unless I see them on like all my tables. From what I can tell ABC poker should easily show a good ROI at this level.

-I'de like to hear peoples' results, and playing styles, as I'd like to try it out down the road.

Only started 3-4days ago. Around 100% ROI in 50 tourneys...obv not sustainable. I've been out of the SnG loop for quite some time, but I would say 30% might not be out of the question long term...they play REALLY badly. Then again the blinds move so quick that that might not even be obtainable...I'll let you know at the end of april, i'll have a better idea after a few thousand tourneys .

-Are you constantly calculating value bets on 5+ tables? (seems impossible!)

Not really that hard, I'm sure I miss a few +eV bets that are marginal though. You can have really lousy post-flop play and still be a winning player at the lower levels...at least at the 6.50s anyways i'm sure this is possible with what i've seen so far.

[CBAT]

Yeah, it just takes time to be able to play more tables.

I began at 1 table ring, increased it to 3 and felt completely lost, dropped down to 2. I eventually would just add a table or two and I am now up to 12 tables, and as long as I'm not being an idiot browsing the internet, or talking on AIM it is very manageable. Also I play about 17VPIP/12PFR at FullRing, which is looser than most reg bots, and I can still manage 12 tables.

[losttrem]

The most important thing is to have your ICM really down. Improving your game is much much more important than adding tables for the sake of adding tables, especially when you are just starting to build a bankroll. Make sure you are comfortable with your late game play. It's already been said but SNGs contain a lot of situations where the decisions are fairly automatic. Make sure you recognize these situations and have the correct play internalized. For starters it is def recommendable to add one table at a time. I can comfortably play 16 tables at a time now, but I have spend months playing 2 tables and then adding one at a time. At a certain point you can start adding more than one table at a time because 16tabling really isnt much different than 14 or 15 tabling.

I am fairly certain that I am one of the very few multi-tablers not using a HUD. I might give it another shot soon, but so far I felt more distracted by it than anything. Possibly because I have went for over 2 years without using one out of shear laziness. If you can make yourself familiar with it early on, it will probably help you a lot in the long run.

[natso]

If you're planning to deposit on Bodog, you gotta check out the Beginner SNGs. They pay 5 spots instead of 3 and are great for building a roll with less variance. I believe they run as low as $2 and up to $32. Don't let the name fool you, a lot of solid players play these because you can flat out make money. It's more of a slow-and-steady gain due to the spread payout structure, but it also helps to ease the downswings. Max tables at Bodog is 4 and if you put in the time, you'll be able to ID the regulars after a while and learn to read them. They don't get as much traffic as Stars or Tilt, but at the times I play (mostly 10p-1a EST) I never have trouble getting on 4 tables within a few minutes. Good luck!

[Chopper]

If you're planning to deposit on Bodog, you gotta check out the Beginner SNGs. They pay 5 spots instead of 3 and are great for building a roll with less variance. I believe they run as low as $2 and up to $32. Don't let the name fool you, a lot of solid players play these because you can flat out make money. It's more of a slow-and-steady gain due to the spread payout structure, but it also helps to ease the downswings. Max tables at Bodog is 4 and if you put in the time, you'll be able to ID the regulars after a while and learn to read them. They don't get as much traffic as Stars or Tilt, but at the times I play (mostly 10p-1a EST) I never have trouble getting on 4 tables within a few minutes. Good luck!

sounds like bodog's version of a double or nothing....just slightly better payouts.

[LuckySlevin]

I was watching some of the WSOP 2007 on satalite the other night and saw Hevad Khan for the first time....

Apparently he had his account blocked online because they thought he was a computer. He had it reinstated when he sent in video evidence that he was playing the games.

He said he was 41 tabling, does anyone know what strategy he was using, or what his winrate was? Just wondering

[Muzzard]

I was watching some of the WSOP 2007 on satalite the other night and saw Hevad Khan for the first time....

Apparently he had his account blocked online because they thought he was a computer. He had it reinstated when he sent in video evidence that he was playing the games.

He said he was 41 tabling, does anyone know what strategy he was using, or what his winrate was? Just wondering

I think he pretty much got owned when he was stupid multitabling the high stages sngs

[LuckySlevin]

lol I guess it's one thing to mutli table zillions of SNGs but what really counts is the winrate. Didn't think there was any conceivable way he could be a solid winner at any stakes 41 tabling, couldn't help but wonder!

[natso]

Guess you didn't hear about the Boku bet. Just recently he went from $100 to $10K in 15 days 50-tabling SNGs on Stars at nothing higher than $16 buy-in.

[LuckySlevin]

wow nice, i'll google him thanks =)

Edit: yeah that was pretty sick, and very inspiring.

[rspeirsmlb]

So I made a $20 deposit on PlayersOnly tonight. My starting bankroll, and its a doozy! I figure the variance will indeed be less playing the double-up SNG's on this site instead of Bodog's. Anyways, my strategy is to only play the $1 and $2 Double-up SNG's on there. I'll start with 2 tables and gradually move to no more than 4, I think I can handle it.....I'm keeping a spreadsheet of my progress (wins/losses). I'm shooting for 15-20 SNG's before I go to bed, but will all depend on how fast I get tired. Plleeassseeee no one be jealous of the size of my starting bankroll here!! (obv kidding) Everybody starts somewhere....I'll post my results after the nights end if anyone is interested, and will summarize what I did right/wrong, etc. I could possibly be slightly under rolled here, but not by much.....we'll see.

[rspeirsmlb]

Total starting balance: $20.65

April 01, 2009 $1.20 NLHSNG 9th ($1.20)Total Balance : $19.45
April 01, 2009 $1.20 NLH SNG 5th ($1.20
Total Balance : $18.25
April 01, 2009 $1.20 NLH SNG 1st $3.80
Total Balance : $22.05
April 01, 2009 $2.20 NLH Double-Up SNG 1st $1.80
Total Balance : $23.85
April 01, 2009 $1.20 NLH SNG 1st $3.80
Total Balance : $27.65
April 01, 2009 $2.20 NLH Double-Up SNG 8th ($2.20)Total Balance : $25.45
April 01, 2009 $2.20 NLH Double-Up SNG 1st $1.80
Total Balance : $27.25
April 01, 2009 $2.20 NLH Double-Up SNG 9th ($2.20)Total Balance : $25.05
April 01, 2009 $2.20 NLH Double-Up SNG 9th ($2.20)Total Balance : $22.85
April 01, 2009 $1.20 NLH SNG 4th [Bubble] ($1.20)Total Balance : $21.65
April 01, 2009 $1.20 NLH SNG 4th [Bubble] ($1.20)Total Balance : $20.45

Ending Balance: $20.45


I started out rough in a couple $1.20 reg sit n gos. Couldn't seem to get any hands and when I would, hit air every flop.
In the 3rd $1.20 SNG, was low stack the entire time but surprisingly came back.

Took 9th place 3 times!!! Wow. Was low stack with AK, guy calls with AQ and wins. Had one other beat.

The last 2 SNG's made me furious. Normally I have good bubble play....but ran into KK on one, when I had AK. The very last one lasted a LONG time. Woke up with TT HU, guy flops a flush I had 3BB left along with another guy at the table. Couldn't get him to do ANYTHING!
Overall I think I played pretty well, played solid but ran into some bad luck on a couple, which I know I made the mathematically correct moves on. I will get back at it tomorrow.....

MY BUBBLE PLAY REALY ISN'T that bad!!! ......I'll sleep it off.

[Poker Orifice]

I strongly suggest that you read the 'Sticky' section on the top of the SNG page. There's a bunch of EXCELLENT articles in there,... all worth reading thru a bunch of times over.

If you're sticking to DON's at first, read up on some articles that are specific to them and look thru posts on this site about them.

GL!

[rspeirsmlb]

So I played 10 DU SNG's tonight ($2.20) and placed 8/10.
Started my first real bankroll yesterday: $20
Bankroll today: $30 (funny how it turned out exactly 30?)

I know I hit a good run and can't expect to make this much on these $2.20 DU SNG's, but it's a good start for me on my bankroll challenge.

[LuckySlevin]

Well done, very nice work, why don't you start an Op so it's easier to follow your progress, I know I'd like to follow your progress and am sure others would too. Nice work on the DON's, 8/10 is very nice. My one bit of caution though is try not to neglect the conventional sng's as I think if you can beat the DONs you can probabally beat the conventional SNGs too, and likely show more profit. Anyway good luck, and gr8 job on the build so far!

[rspeirsmlb]

So after a week of starting my bankroll challenge at small stakes SNG's, I've doubled my bankroll of $20, to $42 I've played about 80 SNG's mostly $2 Double ups but also about 10 $1 SNG's, placing in 8/10 in them. I've seen some nice variance. (couple times seing a whole days profit whiped out in 4 straight losses in SNG's, but knew I made the correct plays) I know it's still quite a small sample, but I feel like I'm dominating the field at this level. Even so, I'm not moving up a level until my bankroll is sufficient. I'm thinking once I get to about $80 I can comfortably move up to $5 DU SNG's because variance is lighter, but of course dropping down a level if I drop below $50. My ROI as of earlier today was 35%, but I'm sure was due to a good run. I'll keep an update as I progress!

[Nakamura]

I started off 6-tabling these babies, but now I run 16 at a time. I'd probably run more, but my laptop would fall over. A few weeks ago I attempted to run a recording of me 15-tabling, but it was a little intensive on my CPU and my computer went all sticky.

When my desktop arrives, I shall try again. It needs to come by truck, but all the truck drivers are striking, including the ones delivering fuel (just in time for the Easter rush!).

The plan is to release a 2K post soon, in which I detail how I multi-table efficiently. Needless to say you need some extra software like AHK scripts to help.

[rspeirsmlb]

I forgot to mention. I've been 4 tabling these and it seems pretty easy....get's a little boring, I need to constantly be making decisions.......today I will try 6 tabling to see how well that goes. People who 10 table + must have a bigger monitor and am assuming the majority of them use desktops?

[Nakamura]

I forgot to mention. I've been 4 tabling these and it seems pretty easy....get's a little boring, I need to constantly be making decisions.......today I will try 6 tabling to see how well that goes. People who 10 table + must have a bigger monitor and am assuming the majority of them use desktops?

14" .... the screen that is . All shall be revealed soon. Just trying to sort out a short video. The rendering is taking a while.

[CBAT]

Yeah I run 12 tables on my laptop with no script. It's just about getting used to it. You get more automatic with your decisions and can better use your time-bank after a while.

[rong]

I generally play 2 tables of $10 10man sng, currently running at 22% roi over 200 games, expect that to drop to about 20 long term.

Have just started playing 4 tables. I definitely lose some of my edge, but I figure with practice I should be able to get it back. Will see how I get on this week.

My biggest weakness is ftr while playing, I get bored too easily and my mind is on poker, so ftr and other poker strategy articles get my attention. Definitely avoid porn, really doesn't help!

Dam it! I'm doing it right now. Dam this site!

[rspeirsmlb]

Things not to do wilst playing SNG's:
1. Watch porn.
2. Facebook the women.
3. Watch tv.
4. Have the girlfriend over.

Things I find that are ok:
1. Listen to music.

[Projectp]

Things not to do wilst playing SNG's:

4. Have the girlfriend over.

Thats the biggest leak in my game, they dont understand you need to focus on the game not on them at all times.

[rspeirsmlb]

That's why right now I am on FTR and not playing SNG's. Girlfriend is over and I'm not in my poker comfort zone. It is almost certain that it is -EV, unless she is sleeping and doesn't give a crap what you do. Wish I was at the tables..........

[rong]

Well, thats it! My multitabling days are over.

Last night, playing 4 tables at a time:
Played 8
Lost 6 (bubbled on 2, AQ loses to A5, ggrrrrrr...)
2nd in 1
3rd in 1.

I am pretty confident if I played 2 at a time I would have done a lot better.

[Nakamura]

Well, thats it! My multitabling days are over.

Last night, playing 4 tables at a time:
Played 8
Lost 6 (bubbled on 2, AQ loses to A5, ggrrrrrr...)
2nd in 1
3rd in 1.

I am pretty confident if I played 2 at a time I would have done a lot better.

Sample size = 1. I have had a few 14 tabling sets, where I have won only ....

.....


wait for it ....



3.

The point is, you need a lot of data points when multi-tabing like 10 tables. 1000 games = 100 data points (which is barely enough). Don't give up yet, just try adding tables slowly .... baby steps first.

[taipan168]

What Naka said. When adding tables you have to do it slowly. After a few years of playing SNGs, I still only play a max of 4 and more commonly 2-3, mostly because I only play for fun and I don't have fun playing more than that.

[rong]

I'm sure you're right.

But I play seriously under rolled - roll approx £80 (cos I cashed out £200 to help with fees for buying a house) playing $10 +$1 = about £7.50. ie I'm playing 10x what my roll would suggest.

I know this breaks the BR rules, but I get bored at lower stakes & this isn't really my bankroll, ie I can add more if need be, just don't leave it stitting in a poker account.

But my point here is, when multitabling my ITM % drops, therefore my variance is higher, and my roll can't handle it. (I don't like adding more money). I think for multitabling you need a bigger BR/stake ratio.

This may be expressed in the BR articles, I haven't read them, as they tell me to play smaller stakes which will bore me and then ruin my enjoyment.

But for me, I think playing 2 at a time is the the way forward, I'm profitable this way and I still enjoy it. Might try just adding 1 table for a while, need my roll to increase considerably first though.

Also, what's your opinion on the timing of tables.

The way I see it, if you start all at the same time, it's good for increasing aggression on all tables at the same rate, ie stack/no of players/blind size will all be similar, which I find helps keep a good rhythm. But of course you can end up with several tables all on the bubble which can be stressful.

So would you generally suggest staggering start times or starting them approx the same time?

[Nakamura]

I'm sure you're right.

But I play seriously under rolled - roll approx £80 (cos I cashed out £200 to help with fees for buying a house) playing $10 +$1 = about £7.50. ie I'm playing 10x what my roll would suggest.

I know this breaks the BR rules, but I get bored at lower stakes & this isn't really my bankroll, ie I can add more if need be, just don't leave it stitting in a poker account.

Your bankroll = the money at the poker site + any further money you are prepared to risk (it makes sense to keep this in a bank earning interest, unless you are hedging on the $/£ exchange rate). I reckon a bankroll of around 20BI (single-tabling) is the bare minimum. I would be more comfortable around the 30BI mark. Make sure you adjust if your bank roll changes.

But my point here is, when multitabling my ITM % drops, therefore my variance is higher, and my roll can't handle it. (I don't like adding more money). I think for multitabling you need a bigger BR/stake ratio.

Well I wouldn't risk more than 10% of my bankroll multi-tabling. What if your internet connection suddenly stops working .... whoops, there went 30% of your bankroll. This 10% rule would mean you would need a bankroll of around $500 to multi-table 10 $5.20's

This may be expressed in the BR articles, I haven't read them, as they tell me to play smaller stakes which will bore me and then ruin my enjoyment.

You could consider playing 4 $5.20's (are you really playing $10+1's DON's? The rake will kill you). Playing 4 $5.20's offers the opportunity to learn to multi-table, while risking the same proportion of your bankroll (assuming you play 2 $10+1's). Also there should be less variance, as you are more games at smaller stakes.

Also, what's your opinion on the timing of tables.

The way I see it, if you start all at the same time, it's good for increasing aggression on all tables at the same rate, ie stack/no of players/blind size will all be similar, which I find helps keep a good rhythm. But of course you can end up with several tables all on the bubble which can be stressful.

So would you generally suggest staggering start times or starting them approx the same time?

Different strokes for different folks. I have tried both and personally I prefer all the tourneys to start at the same time. This means I'm in tight mode at the beginning and push/fold mode at end at the same time. I tend to get confused and make mistakes if the blinds are at wildly different levels. If you have practised ICM play, the decisions should be almost automatic.

[rong]

I'm sure you're right.

But I play seriously under rolled - roll approx £80 (cos I cashed out £200 to help with fees for buying a house) playing $10 +$1 = about £7.50. ie I'm playing 10x what my roll would suggest.

I know this breaks the BR rules, but I get bored at lower stakes & this isn't really my bankroll, ie I can add more if need be, just don't leave it stitting in a poker account.

Your bankroll = the money at the poker site + any further money you are prepared to risk (it makes sense to keep this in a bank earning interest, unless you are hedging on the $/£ exchange rate). I reckon a bankroll of around 20BI (single-tabling) is the bare minimum. I would be more comfortable around the 30BI mark. Make sure you adjust if your bank roll changes.

Hmmmm...I thinbk at one point I had 5 on the go which is approx half my roll (lets say I am willing to add another £80 which makes it 25% of my roll) which I guess is far too much.

But my point here is, when multitabling my ITM % drops, therefore my variance is higher, and my roll can't handle it. (I don't like adding more money). I think for multitabling you need a bigger BR/stake ratio.

Well I wouldn't risk more than 10% of my bankroll multi-tabling. What if your internet connection suddenly stops working .... whoops, there went 30% of your bankroll. This 10% rule would mean you would need a bankroll of around $500 to multi-table 10 $5.20's

Thats a very good point! The 10% rule would mean with a real BR or say £160, playing with no more than £16 at a time, which is approx $22, so either 2x $10 or 4x $5. I guess that could work.

This may be expressed in the BR articles, I haven't read them, as they tell me to play smaller stakes which will bore me and then ruin my enjoyment.

You could consider playing 4 $5.20's (are you really playing $10+1's DON's? The rake will kill you). Playing 4 $5.20's offers the opportunity to learn to multi-table, while risking the same proportion of your bankroll (assuming you play 2 $10+1's). Also there should be less variance, as you are more games at smaller stakes.

I'm not a fan of the DoN's, much prefer standard SNG, in fact only really play DoN's when I sign up to the wrond table by accident.

Did you find that with some practice, you were just as effective 4 tabling as 2 tabling? Or did you alwasy lose a little of your edge with each extra table?

Also, what's your opinion on the timing of tables.

The way I see it, if you start all at the same time, it's good for increasing aggression on all tables at the same rate, ie stack/no of players/blind size will all be similar, which I find helps keep a good rhythm. But of course you can end up with several tables all on the bubble which can be stressful.

So would you generally suggest staggering start times or starting them approx the same time?

Different strokes for different folks. I have tried both and personally I prefer all the tourneys to start at the same time. This means I'm in tight mode at the beginning and push/fold mode at end at the same time. I tend to get confused and make mistakes if the blinds are at wildly different levels. If you have practised ICM play, the decisions should be almost automatic.

Right, this has me motivated a little (surprisingly given my first post).

I have a new plan. I'm going to start 8 tabling the $2 tables.

The theory: If I can get somewhat used to 8 tabling, switching to 4 tabling at the $10 level should seem easy by comparison. Tonight, I will do 4 sets of 8 tables as the $2 10 man SnG's and see how I get on. The ganes are relatively easy, so if I can't do it here I prob just can't do it.

I will let you know how I get on. And thanks for you response above.

[rong]

hmmmm, I feel I may be drifting away from your advice here, but I am taking it on board, just utilising it somewhat differently than perhaps intended.

[Nakamura]

Risking 10% of your bankroll is completely arbitrary, but in the worst case scenario, it's what I'd feel comfortable losing.

Stats on multitabling (stats for table # for which I have appropriate samples)

Stake = $5.20 #tables = 1791

# tables # ROI
6 253 11.0%
9 168 11.0%
10 228 13.0%
14 427 8.1%
15 329 12.2%

Personally, I think you are better off playing fewer tables to begin with. It's very difficult to handle a jump of 6 tables and still be on your game .. it's your bankroll tho.

[rong]

Once again, I have a feeling you are right. But I'm excited about it now, so gonna give it a try. (You'll see me crying on here tomorrow no doubt)

Do you think software aimed at assisting you multi table is essential for that level? If so, (I read your previous post re reaching 2k) can you suggest anything that works for Titan? Hopefully without me needing any technical knowledge(as I have none).

Thanks.

[Nakamura]

Do you think software aimed at assisting you multi table is essential for that level? If so, (I read your previous post re reaching 2k) can you suggest anything that works for Titan? Hopefully without me needing any technical knowledge(as I have none).

Thanks.

No, I don't think the software is essential at the moment. If you are planning to 4-table, I'd go ahead and tile (if you can). Otherwise you can operate a stack and shift tables in and out of the stack using the code in the 2K post. This in fact works for any window i.e. it could just as well shift notepad windows around.

You basically just need to download AHK. Then open notepad, and stick the code in a black document. You will need to fiddle around with the coordinates to make it work for your table size (this is just trail and error - use play money tables while you sort it out). Then save as move_table.ahk. Don't worry it's not hard!

If you are really stuck, you can send me the dimensions of your screen and your table sizes and I can do this next week. I'm away for the weekend, so I won't be able to do it before then.

Double clicking on the file should open the code in the system tray i.e. all you will see is a green icon with a "H" in the system tray ... and presto the code moves the tables.

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Thanks. I'll give it a go.