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    Default KK, 2 players AI, ace on the flop but nut flush draw ($27)

    No real reads on any of these players, this is 9th hand. If it helps I can look up HUD stats but tiny sample size.

    What's your flop move? Clearly it's MP3 that I'm concerned about here.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $25+$2 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    SB (t1470)
    BB (t1330)
    UTG (t2925)
    UTG+1 (t150)
    Hero (MP1) (t3050)
    MP2 (t1550)
    MP3 (t1550)
    CO (t30)
    Button (t1445)

    Hero's M: 67.78

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, K
    1 fold, UTG+1 bets t150 (All-In), Hero raises to t450, 1 fold, MP3 calls t450, CO calls t30 (All-In), 3 folds

    Flop: (t1125) 8, A, 9 (4 players, 2 all-in)
    Hero ????
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    I have to push and live with what happens. May be behind but we have outs. Would be nice if he has QQ with the Q of hearts.
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    WOW... what's he going to be flatting 1/3 of his stack with here (MP3)? Maybe as suggested.. 'Q-Q', wanting to see a flop first instead of shoving over HERO's raise?

    At first I was going to say, "just shove it allin"... but we're not going to fold out a hand that's ahead of here but we're obviously not laying it down. Couldn't we just check-shove AI here to induce a bet out of opponent if we're figuring we're ahead of them to extract a bit more value? If they check behind are we concerned about giving them a free card?
    I don't know.. .what is it... shove.. or check/shove?
    I suppose if we shove we could be representing AK and are shoving to protect our hand (which might also induce a call from a worse hand, ie. Qh-Qx, now that he's committed 1/3 of his stack already).
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    On second thought.. (or third), I say check-shove AI)
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    villain probably doesn't have a flush draw or a made flush and if he has AK he doesn't even have a single heart. AA probably shoves over pre-flop so that hand is also unlikely, but not out of the question.

    Personally I think that a shove here gets AK or AQ (non heart of course)to fold enough to make it +ev.
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    Not so sure about AK & AQ folding here. I don't see anything we beat folding. Which makes me like Poker Orifice's point of check/shove to get value out of anything we are ahead of.
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