QQ faces AI on river with K high flop ($6.50)

[Nakamura]

The betting line from the villain seems weird here, but no reads other than he appears a bit loose over a small sample of hands.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 6+0.50 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB (t1375)
Hero (BB) (t1455)
UTG (t1400)
UTG+1 (t1575)
MP1 (t1570)
MP2 (t3060)
CO (t1405)
Button (t1660)

Hero's M: 19.40

Preflop: Hero is BB with ,
UTG calls t50, 4 folds, Button calls t50, 1 fold, Hero bets t200, UTG calls t150, Button calls t150

Flop: (t625) , , (3 players)
Hero bets t250, UTG calls t250, 1 fold

Turn: (t1125) (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: (t1125) (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets t950 (All-In), Hero ??

[rong]

Don't like throwing all my chips in with less than top pair this early in a torney, especially calling rather than raising. It's either a blatent bluff or you are behind, so once again I think I fold this one.

[taipan168]

250 preflop with the two limpers in front.

As played, I don't bet the flop with the K on board and two opps seeing the flop. I don't understand the point of your small probe bet, what are you hoping to achieve here? You don't have a lot of FE considering opps' pot odds and you certainly don't want a call.

[Luco]

Smells like big bruff to me. I wouldn't be surprised to see AQ, AJ, AT, or a lower PP than yours here. I know it's early but the amount of donks that will shove garbage here just because you checked the turn is unbelievable. I'd probably look them up here *awaits teh rebuttal*

[Nakamura]

250 preflop with the two limpers in front.

As played, I don't bet the flop with the K on board and two opps seeing the flop. I don't understand the point of your small probe bet, what are you hoping to achieve here? You don't have a lot of FE considering opps' pot odds and you certainly don't want a call.

350 is unlikely to fold anyone with a K or a SD (implied odds), 250 seems like enough to fold anyone without a hand. I'm getting 2.5:1 on my money and saving 100 chips at the same time.

Edit: Now that I read this I do see an issue with the logic. However, we may also induce calls from hands that are behind us as well e.g. Jx etc.

[taipan168]

350 is unlikely to fold anyone with a K or a SD (implied odds), 250 seems like enough to fold anyone without a hand. I'm getting 2.5:1 on my money and saving 100 chips at the same time.

My issue is more with betting this flop rather than the size of the bet. Against two opps, what hands that beat you (with the possible exception of Jx) will call? What hands that you beat will fold?

[Nakamura]

350 is unlikely to fold anyone with a K or a SD (implied odds), 250 seems like enough to fold anyone without a hand. I'm getting 2.5:1 on my money and saving 100 chips at the same time.

My issue is more with betting this flop rather than the size of the bet. Against two opps, what hands that beat you (with the possible exception of Jx) will call? What hands that you beat will fold?

At the $6.50's I guess the calling range is Jx, small-mid pockets, straight draw, occasionally Ax type hands (especially when the x hits).

More importantly though betting here stops some opponents bluffing or betting with hands that you actually bet (to which we are going to fold because we fear the K).

[baudib]

Seems unlikely that Kx checks IP on the turn so I lean toward a call.

[GatorJH]

Seems unlikely that Kx checks IP on the turn so I lean toward a call.

I agree with this. If villain has Kx there are quite a few cards that he won't like to see on the river so I doubt he checks behind. I think you will find this to be Jx or a draw a big portion of the time.

[Aplomado]

Indeed, I'm getting an AT/AJ feeling here since he obviously doesn't have a monster preflop and he's not trying to protect the King on the turn. The only other possibility I see here is slowplaying 66, but that's obviously a long shot.

[taipan168]

My issue is more with betting this flop rather than the size of the bet. Against two opps, what hands that beat you (with the possible exception of Jx) will call? What hands that you beat will fold?

At the $6.50's I guess the calling range is Jx, small-mid pockets, straight draw, occasionally Ax type hands (especially when the x hits).
More importantly though betting here stops some opponents bluffing or betting with hands that you actually bet (to which we are going to fold because we fear the K).

Bleh, it's been a long time since I played the $6.50s, if they call with that crap then I guess it's OK. One other thing you need to consider is the size of the pot if you bet and both of them call, meaning that you have pot odds to call a shove (as in fact happened on this hand).

As played, if UTG will call with the range you mentioned, then you have to call the river shove.

[Nakamura]

I tanked out and eventually called since I figured the betting line was strange for Kx. Opp flipped up QT for a busted SD.

[Luco]

Totally called it

[RockyMoose]

I was scrolling down to enter my vote for "call" -- Luco shares my thoughts. A value bet on the river here is so much scarier than the shove. I play $5.50s mostly; would you still call if this were a $10+1?

[GatorJH]

I was scrolling down to enter my vote for "call" -- Luco shares my thoughts. A value bet on the river here is so much scarier than the shove. I play $5.50s mostly; would you still call if this were a $10+1?

I would probably call this at any level up to the $22's and $33's that I play. It is actually a scarier call at the lower levels because you may have a villain who doesn't understand the concept of not checking scary boards like this one.