Quote Originally Posted by clvacva
you hit straight on river right.
so he had AK or flush?
I still shove the river
He will pay us off with two pair and sets
i wouldn't feel so confident he's calling w two pair and sets. even non-thinking opponents are likely know that any K, 8 or two diamonds has them beat. i can best stomach a c/c on the river.

HOWEVER i don't think we should be putting ourselves in the situation we were in. people might disagree but i hate flatting KQo out of position, especially with other callers. this is the best case scenario and you're still in a terrible situation, it's never gonna be easy. fold or 3bet. i'm NEVER 3betting the flop, unless i have a ridiculous note on villain like went all in with middle pair. why turn this hand into a bluff? i'm even considering a fold more than a fold because you're committing yourself to the pot. i also don't like the turn call. again we're committed, so why are we giving a chance for draws to suck out on us?

in short, though, i struggle w TP2K OOP in a multi-way, raised pot when someone else has the initiative, so i hate to just call here. it seems like you do to so i'd suggest avoid ever being in this spot in the first place