What does xx/xx/xx mean

[villagenut]

I am not familiar with some of the online tools available for in game analysis that many seem to use here at FTR. I see people refer to opponents as XXX/XX/XX over so many hands. What do these numbers mean, what software is used to calculate it, and where can i get it.
THANKS

[Nakamura]

Generally this is referring to VPIP (or voluntary put into pot, expressed as a %) / Pre-flop raise %/ Aggression factor (this is a index incorporating your call to raise proportion). Over 3 is generally considered aggressive. I think under 2 is considered passive.

These figures are normally generated by a HUD such as PokerAceHUD or the HUD in Hold 'em Manager. I'm sure there are some free ones floating around, which Google will be able to find.

[rong]

Generally this is referring to VPIP (or voluntary put into pot, expressed as a %) / Pre-flop raise %/ Aggression factor (this is a index incorporating your call to raise proportion). Over 3 is generally considered aggressive. I think under 2 is considered passive.

These figures are normally generated by a HUD such as PokerAceHUD or the HUD in Hold 'em Manager. I'm sure there are some free ones floating around, which Google will be able to find.

I've been searching fir a free HUD with the above stats usable on Titan (IPoker network) for ages. Please let me know if anyone finds one.

[Nakamura]

I've been searching fir a free HUD with the above stats usable on Titan (IPoker network) for ages. Please let me know if anyone finds one.

You could try freepokerdb http://fpdb.sourceforge.net/index.php.

Help file says PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker, Everleaf, Betfair are supported, but maybe be worth investigating .... or you could save yourself time and probably lots of effort and buy a HUD.

[Poker Orifice]

[. Please let me know if anyone finds one.

Dan, You play at Titan? I've had an account on there for 3mos. but I've never played in any of their regular games... ever. I threw down the big $35 on that site and have around $200 on there now but just from a few freeroll & priv. tourney cashes. I'm pretty sure I need to earn a bunch of plyr. pts. to clear a small bonus but I have no clue about it really.
Any suggestions for SNG's on there, or how the play compares to Fulltilt &/or Pokerstars (at $5 & $10 buyin levels).

As far as stats. go xx/xx/xx, maybe someone could write down some numbers that would describe some typical playing styles would be around (ie. VP$IP below 20 tight, above 30 loose, etc./etc.). Might help OP out to be able to better relate to a bunch of the posts.

[Nakamura]

As far as stats. go xx/xx/xx, maybe someone could write down some numbers that would describe some typical playing styles would be around (ie. VP$IP below 20 tight, above 30 loose, etc./etc.). Might help OP out to be able to better relate to a bunch of the posts.

Nice thought ....

Generally you use VPIP and PFR in unison to give you a broad idea of the opponent's style of play. You would need a lot of hands on someone to accurately say whether a VPIP of 20 means this player is tight or loose. Furthermore the stats are going to clouded by your opp opening up his range at higher blind levels.

You can add in the aggression factor into the mix as well, but that generally only comes into play in later streets and gives you some idea on how you are going to have to play on the flop/turn/river.

Here are some examples (there are always shades of grey)

14/11 - Typical tight aggressive player

14/3 - tight passive

3/2 - weak tight (this player is similar to player above, except his limping range is tiny)

35/28 - loose aggressive

35/4 - loose passive

All of this can be useful to hand range an opponent. For example, a TAGG running at 15/12 puts a 3xbb raise from the button at the 50/100 level. You should consider pushing any hand with potential over the top of his raise, as it is quite likely he is stealing the blinds.

In exactly the same spot, facing a raise from a loose-passive or a weak-tight player, you should tread carefully. Both are raising such a small % of hands (it is likely they are raising for value), you are going to need a much better hand to push over here.

[Luco]

DanArong, HEM works with Titan and it's only $55.

[rong]

HEM for $55, that seems worthwhile, will look into that. $99 seemed too much as I am doing well without it. But I think it wll help me with regard to moving up stakes.
Cheers Luco.


Poker Orifice:
Not played any freerolls, they take too much time for too little reward for my liking. But you seem to be doing well out of them. May take a look. What are they like? How many entrants on average? What's the pay out structure like?

As for their SnG's, can't comment on comparison to PS or FT as never played on either. But I find them the easiest I've ever come accross at $5 & $10 level. I use sharkescope hud, and on either level, you are usually up against 2 or 3 players who have a positive ROI, with everyone else just throwing money away, god bless 'em! I just play tighter than a nuns **** early on and then super aggerssive near the bubble which seems to be working so far. Gets a bit tougher at the $20 level, only played a few so too early to comment with any precision yet.

But I suggest you keep well away, as I don't need any more players on there that know what they're doing

[rong]

As far as stats. go xx/xx/xx, maybe someone could write down some numbers that would describe some typical playing styles would be around (ie. VP$IP below 20 tight, above 30 loose, etc./etc.). Might help OP out to be able to better relate to a bunch of the posts.

Nice thought ....

Generally you use VPIP and PFR in unison to give you a broad idea of the opponent's style of play. You would need a lot of hands on someone to accurately say whether a VPIP of 20 means this player is tight or loose. Furthermore the stats are going to clouded by your opp opening up his range at higher blind levels.

You can add in the aggression factor into the mix as well, but that generally only comes into play in later streets and gives you some idea on how you are going to have to play on the flop/turn/river.

Here are some examples (there are always shades of grey)

14/11 - Typical tight aggressive player

14/3 - tight passive

3/2 - weak tight (this player is similar to player above, except his limping range is tiny)

35/28 - loose aggressive

35/4 - loose passive

All of this can be useful to hand range an opponent. For example, a TAGG running at 15/12 puts a 3xbb raise from the button at the 50/100 level. You should consider pushing any hand with potential over the top of his raise, as it is quite likely he is stealing the blinds.

In exactly the same spot, facing a raise from a loose-passive or a weak-tight player, you should tread carefully. Both are raising such a small % of hands (it is likely they are raising for value), you are going to need a much better hand to push over here.

Are those stats from 1 particular torney, or does it carry stats over for every time you play that opponent?

[Nakamura]

Are those stats from 1 particular torney, or does it carry stats over for every time you play that opponent?

The default is to display stats for all hands you have played with opponent (i.e. at the table, not necessarily involved in the hand). I assume you could set it up to display for only that particular game (although I'm not too sure how useful this is).

I recently asked on the HEM forum whether they are planning on releasing a version that a) can give VPIP and PFR over the last X many hands and b) can give you VPIP and PFR at only the current blind level (i.e. see what the villain's VPIP and PFR are at the 50/100 across all the hands you have played versus him), and HEM Support tells me they are working on both!

The low stakes HEM version ($55) will only work up to stakes of $27 (I think). Beyond that you will need to purchase or upgrade to the high-stakes version. Fortunately, I think upgrading is only $25, so you may as well go for the low-stakes version for now.