$25 turbo - boat on turn - how to extract value on river?

[TLR]

One of the first hands of the Sng, no reads

What do you think is the best line to extract maximum value on the river ?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $23+$2 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

Hero (MP) (t1530)
CO (t1490)
Button (t1460)
SB (t1480)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1540)

Hero's M: 51.00

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9, 9
1 fold, Hero bets t60, CO calls t60, 3 folds

Flop: (t150) 9, 5, 7 (2 players)
Hero bets t80, CO raises to t240, Hero calls t160

Turn: (t630) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets t320, Hero calls t320

River: (t1270) A (2 players)

[caddie444]

I play flop same as you.


The problem with the ace is that he folds overpairs to the nines the majority of the time if you bet, and will check behind with these hands too.

If he has the ace or better he will call any bet you make as well.

So basically since he mostly folds when he thinks he's behind because of the ace when you bet, and he mostly calls when he has aces or better, you might as well bet! I just don't think he will be turning his non high strength hands into a bluff on this river.

It's hard to say for me b/c I usually don't slowplay this much at the $6.50's. (ie even though I usually don't reraise the flop very often in this spot, I usually do the turn)

I doubt hes bluffing the majority of the time up until the river, which is why I like to throw in a minraise after his turn bet to set-up an easy shove on the river.

[taipan168]

I probably lead the turn weak, like 250-300 or so and hope that opp raises again. I want to set myself up to get all my chips in on the river. If you check the turn, I would check-minraise after opp bets.

As played, I probably just shove the river because a) you have 910 behind and pot is 1270 and b) looks like a bluff of some sort

[baudib]

Flop play is good but it becomes 200% better if you lead the turn, as taipan suggests. IMO it drives people insane when you flat a three-bet OOP on the flop and donk the turn.

Anything is OK on the river as long as you don't check.

[TLR]

I think c-r the turn was probably the best move.

As played I threw in a small value bet on the river (450) and he folded.

[baudib]

as played check-raise turn is good.

[cag8f]

What's wrong with a shove over on the flop? Villian is screaming that he has an overpair, and is anyone here laying down an overpair on that flop, especially in a turbo? Barring that, I like a CRAI on the turn. The A on the river is precisely why I don't like waiting until the river to get it in--his aces just filled up to beat you (admittedly unlikely), or the overcard may scare him from making/calling a big bet.

[TLR]

What's wrong with a shove over on the flop? Villian is screaming that he has an overpair, and is anyone here laying down an overpair on that flop, especially in a turbo? Barring that, I like a CRAI on the turn. The A on the river is precisely why I don't like waiting until the river to get it in--his aces just filled up to beat you (admittedly unlikely), or the overcard may scare him from making/calling a big bet.

Why do you think he has an overpair ? He did not reraise preflop, which I would expect with most overpairs

My interpertation of his actions were:
On the flop he raised me because if I am c-betting AK/AQ/AJ etc he may pick the pot here. He either has air (2 overs) or some piece of this flop (A7, 88, 66, maybe low pair, maybe something like JT with gutshot draw)
Once I called him and did not reraise (which is expected by overpairs) and I checked the turn he decided to take another stab on the turn

[cag8f]

My bad, I thought he was the PFR. In light of that, he's *not* screaming that he has an overpair (although he obviously still might). My interpretation is along the same lines as yours, and I probably wouldn't push him over on the flop for fear of chasing him away. I think I like the turn donk lead, or minraise. Probably lean towards donk lead.

[GatorJH]

I think a c/r turn looks too strong. I like the weak turn lead line better.

[casdav05]

I put him on an A. With a flop like that, he figured you were just continuation betting, hence the reraise. He seems to have made himself pot commited here. I may be wrong, but I would probably bet about 40% of the pot here to look weak. If he folds with that bet, he's folding regardless I would think. If you push you stand a bigger chance of him folding here if he has anything other than an A.

[DetroitHusling101]

click it back on the flop.

idk , i try and get more in on the flop just because it's not often they repop you and than fold , but this could be a leak on my part.

as played i like c/shove turn

[sportbike33]

I think I would check the river due to the fact that he prob will keep firing. If I immediaetly bet out then I prob will scare away so That Ace will kill your action 9 times out of ten. (Hopefully he doesnt have aces in the hole, then ur screwed)

[TLR]

I think I would check the river due to the fact that he prob will keep firing. If I immediaetly bet out then I prob will scare away so That Ace will kill your action 9 times out of ten. (Hopefully he doesnt have aces in the hole, then ur screwed)

Welcome to the forum

I am not that scared of aces, if he has them, good for him (he should have raised preflop

If an A did not hit the flop I would have checked to him, I thought the A might slow him down so I made a small value bet. In retrspect I think checking might have been more profitable

[TLR]

click it back on the flop.

idk , i try and get more in on the flop just because it's not often they repop you and than fold , but this could be a leak on my part.

as played i like c/shove turn

Clicking it back indicates a lot of strength, I have a strong hand and an opponent betting into me, I want to encourage him to keep betting

[2ndline.4thstreet]

I c/r the turn. As played I think I put out a weak bet around 400 and hope for the best.