Full Tilt - 10k Guaranteed - How do you play this situation?

[aytopper]

Blind level: 19TH-24TH
Chip count: Roughly 250,000
Position: Right of two big stacks.

I got switched to this table at the 19th blind level. Feeling confident about my play thus far. Making good reads, folding when appropriate. Now when I get to this table I notice that the guy to my left is the chip leader with more than 2.5:1 to my stack and the guy to his left with a stack of about 315,000. At first this really didn't matter a GREAT deal because I didn't know how they were playing. After a round or so I come to find out that they are extremely aggressive preflop and calling re-raises. Once again this didn't really bother me because I knew how to capitalize on that type of play. Now, anytime I would raise preflop to essentially steal the blinds I would get popped by one of these 2 players. Their raises were absurdly high about 75BB-100BB(given the level), that it would commit me to going all in.

Situation:

You are card dead. The best had that you have got between the 19TH-24TH blind level has been KTo. You are unable to steal the blinds. If you opt to limp you are paying anywhere from 20BB-30BB's. How do you play?

[baudib]

Don't limp.

[sinister1]

Agree w/Baudib, don't limp

Also tighten up your late position raising range to hands you are comfortable with against their 3bet range and just 4bet jam it next time vs them. You could also try opening a wider range from earlier positions since they might be less likely to 3bet you and from the sound of it the rest of the table is not 3betting like crazy. If you are so card dead that you do not get any hands like this then you just have to suck it up and patiently fold even if you get down to push/fold stack size and just work from there.

[Fjaman]

+1 tighten up and be prepared to push, no guts no glory

[hopeful]

People get these big stacks by playing with aggression, often people limp fold when they make a move. Their stack grows and grows until somebody takes a big piece of it. I think a good way to defend is to be prepared to shove whatever hand you are stealing with. I think a bluff should represent a hand and the following three seem to work well.

Limp re raise all in- often looks like aces
raise 4bb then shove all in- big pair
Open shove - AK

Of course you must decide what hands you need to make these moves, you can wait for the hands themselves or just represent. I will often use A9+, suited paint, 66+. All of them have a reasonable chance against a wide range.
A9 - 49%v top 20%
66 - 47%

suited paint 54%