QQ call/fold on turn @20NL

[chrisa]

Hand converter couldn't convert this for some reason.

Villain was a loose aggressive player. He had a bluff looked up when the aggressor checked on the river. Not many relevant reads though but he hasn't really gotten out of line nor shown a great deal of imagination.

Is this turn raise a standard call? Or do I fold here?

Hand#1863011398001270 - Calgary (6-Max) 11398 -- $0.10/$0.20 NL Hold'em -- 2009/05/12 - 23:45:04
Seat 1: cost*** ($35.55 in chips) DEALER
Seat 2: PayS*** ($20.30 in chips)
Seat 3: jack*** ($19.20 in chips)
Seat 5: eatupfatboy ($22.90 in chips)
Seat 9: Ship*** ($21.45 in chips)
jack***: posts small blind $0.10
eatupfatboy: posts big blind $0.20
Dealt to eatupfatboy [Qc,Qd]
Ship***: raises to $0.70
cost***: folds
PayS***: folds
jack***: folds
eatupfatboy: raises to $2.10
Ship***: calls $1.40
*** FLOP *** [4h,Ts,3s]
eatupfatboy: bets $3.65
Ship***: calls $3.65
*** TURN *** [8s]
eatupfatboy: bets $7.70
Ship***: is all in 15.7000
eatupfatboy: ???

[chrisa]

I was getting 8 : 35.7 pot odds here. I called because I figured for this to be a +EV call, I had to be ahead of his range more than 22% of the time.

Board: 4h Ts 3s 8s
Dead:  

	equity 	win 	tie 	      pots won 	pots tied	
Hand 0: 	22.119%  	20.70% 	01.42% 	           255 	       17.50   { QcQd }
Hand 1: 	77.881%  	76.46% 	01.42% 	           942 	       17.50   { TT+, 88, AsKs, AsQs, AsJs }

[bigspenda73]

out of curiosity really, what made you want to include the results?

[chrisa]

I wanted my ranges/math thinking to be critiqued as well.

[bigspenda73]

right, but why/how did posting the results of the actual hand affect how your ranges/math would be critiqued?

I wanted my ranges/math thinking to be critiqued as well.

sure, but actually the results are not necessary, just the math/ranges

also his range is a little wider than that, a lot of laggs call pf with AT because they want to out-play you, and he would get it in with AsTc or something like that

but it depends on what you mean by lagg...

[chrisa]

Edited because I'm retarded. :P

Tbh I'm not 100% sure what LAgg means but villain raised with suited connectors UTG once and A5o UTG. Also 3bet A4s on the button.

[dragntail]

LAG is a general qualitative term for a player who has a VPIP of 25+ with a high PFR to match. See http://scatmann.net/vpip_pfr_poker_stats/

Are you running Poker Tracker or Holdem Manager? Do you have any stats on the guy?

[chrisa]

I don't use either. I've tried both trials but neither work on my Vista.

LAG is a general qualitative term for a player who has a VPIP of 25+ with a high PFR to match. See http://scatmann.net/vpip_pfr_poker_stats/

Are you running Poker Tracker or Holdem Manager? Do you have any stats on the guy?

that's wrong, 25/21 would be a TAG in 6m

[lockpull]

I don't use either. I've tried both trials but neither work on my Vista.

I have Vista and while it can be a pain in the ass to set up it I know it is possible to use HEM on vista. They have a good FAQ and a really helpful forum if you run into trouble.

As for the hand.... it seems he is really aggressive PF but what about after the flop? What hands call a little over 4/5 flop given PF action that you beat?

[dragntail]

Oh sorry, I didn't notice/think about the fact that it was 6max. I stand corrected then. Probably more like 35+ I guess?