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    Default 44 in the BB to winning regular SB raise ($27)

    SB is Fat Afghan, a winning regular at the $27 turbos. If he has noticed me, he knows who I am and that I'm a winning regular as well (although not as winning as he is).

    Do you shove back here from the BB and if not, what range are you shoving? I ran it through SNG Wiz and it is obviously very sensitive to his open raise and call shove ranges.

    Poker Stars $25+$2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t25 - 3 players
    The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

    Hero (BB): t5210 M = 7.72
    BTN: t1725 M = 2.56
    SB: t6565 M = 9.73

    Pre Flop: (t675) Hero is BB with 4 4
    1 fold, SB raises to t1200, Hero ????
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    I don't think I shove over here, I think I call and see a flop, especially since you have position on him.

    I would shove over with 88-QQ, A9+ I would probably call with AA, KK and lower PP


  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    I don't think I shove over here, I think I call and see a flop, especially since you have position on him.
    I don't think our stack is deep enough to flat call, we don't have odds to play for set value and I'm not sure what flop I would want to bet other than one with a 4 in it
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    Looking at the relative stack sizes, I can't see the value in shoving here.

    If you take the pot, you aren't that much better off than you are now. You are reasonably well stacked here and small stack has a very small stack.

    Unless he has been pushing you around a bit already and you feel you need to draw a line in the sand and only see him calling with JJ+ & AK maybe. I don't know what percentage of the time you'd need villain to fold to make this worthwhile. But I would just fold.

    You really don't want your shove called unless he has 22 or 33. Whats the point in a coin toss when you are in a good position already. So I say fold and wait for a better position. You will probably be heads up shortly anyway and therefore gauranteed 2nd place.
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    SB could be raising any two cards here. I would push this and expect a fold, and probably not be in too bad of a position if there is a call.
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    All options kinda suck here. I probably shove this unless I think he's unusually tight, which should almost never be the case.
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    super thanks you very much !

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