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  1. #1

    Default a few hands for help, $11 at stars

    Hi,
    had going everything quite well, but then blew all my chips and finished just b4 the money.

    Hands 21, 22, 24 and 25 are really the only interesting ones, I left the others + condensed ones there to have a better picture of everything.



    -----Hand 21-----
    Hero's M = 31.99
    PokerStars Game #28367876854: Tournament #163920728, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2009/05/19 12:20:48 EET [2009/05/19 5:20:48 ET]
    Table '163920728 42' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: MrHenrik (14272)
    Seat 2: Hero (19195)
    Seat 3: Charlie 333 (2690)
    Seat 4: DallasCorben (12870)
    Seat 5: xxvidalxx (11615)
    Seat 6: Iceman7170 (7429)
    Seat 7: il Paulie (9067)
    Seat 8: slycanadian1 (21183)
    Seat 9: drunkncowboy (21792)
    xxvidalxx: posts small blind 200
    Iceman7170: posts big blind 400
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero 9 7
    il Paulie: folds
    slycanadian1: folds
    drunkncowboy: calls 400
    MrHenrik: calls 400
    Hero: calls 400
    Charlie 333: folds
    DallasCorben: folds
    xxvidalxx: calls 200
    Iceman7170: checks
    Flop: 3 J 4
    xxvidalxx: checks
    Iceman7170: checks
    drunkncowboy: bets 1200
    MrHenrik: folds
    Hero: calls 1200
    xxvidalxx: folds
    Iceman7170: folds
    Turn: 9
    drunkncowboy: bets 2000
    Hero: calls 2000
    River: 3
    drunkncowboy: bets 3600
    Hero: folds
    Uncalled bet (3600) returned to drunkncowboy
    drunkncowboy collected 8850

    I think i was an idiot to try to draw here.. how would you play this? Folding pre sounds pretty good now..

    3 2 MP2 (Hero's M = 25.91; c+r+f+F+f+f+f+f+f+f)
    Q 3 UTG+2 (Hero's M = 25.82; f+r+F+f+f+f+f+f+c+s+b+f)
    9 3 UTG+1 (Hero's M = 25.74; f+F+f+f+f+f+f+c+s+s+s+b+f)
    9 2 UTG (Hero's M = 25.66; F+f+f+f+f+f+f+f[/color])

    -----Hand 22-----
    Hero's M = 25.57
    PokerStars Game #28367948827: Tournament #163920728, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2009/05/19 12:25:48 EET [2009/05/19 5:25:48 ET]
    Table '163920728 42' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: MrHenrik (15822)
    Seat 2: Hero (15345)
    Seat 3: Charlie 333 (2440)
    Seat 4: DallasCorben (12620)
    Seat 5: xxvidalxx (10965)
    Seat 6: Iceman7170 (6579)
    Seat 7: il Paulie (8217)
    Seat 8: slycanadian1 (20483)
    Seat 9: drunkncowboy (27642)
    MrHenrik: posts small blind 200
    Hero: posts big blind 400
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero 8 J
    Charlie 333: folds
    DallasCorben: folds
    xxvidalxx: folds
    Iceman7170: folds
    il Paulie: folds
    slycanadian1: raises 1200 to 1600
    drunkncowboy: folds
    MrHenrik: folds
    Hero: raises 2400 to 4000
    slycanadian1: calls 2400
    Flop: 3 Q 5
    Hero: bets 3200
    slycanadian1: folds
    Uncalled bet (3200) returned to Hero
    Hero collected 8650

    9 K SB (Hero's M = 33.24; f+f+f+c+f+f+f+F+s+s+b+f)
    Q 2 Button (Hero's M = 21.88; f+f+f+r+f+f+F+f+f)
    8 3 CO (Hero's M = 21.83; f+f+f+f+r+F+f+f+f)
    6 3 MP (Hero's M = 21.77; f+f+f+f+F+r+f+c+c+s+s+s+s+b+c)
    T 5 MP (Hero's M = 21.72; f+f+f+F+f+f+f)
    8 Q MP2 (Hero's M = 21.66; f+f+F+f+r+r+f+f+c)
    J 5 UTG+1 (Hero's M = 21.61; r+F+f+f+f+c+f+f+b+f)
    8 A UTG (Hero's M = 21.55; F+f+[/color]r+f+f+r+f+f+f)
    J 6 BB (Hero's M = 21.49; f+f+r+f+f+f+f+f+F)
    6 2 SB (Hero's M = 20.77; f+f+f+f+r+c+f+F+f+b+r+f)
    J 9 Button (Hero's M = 20.38; f+f+f+r+f+f+F+r+f+r+r+c)
    9 T CO (Hero's M = 20.33; f+f+f+f+r+F+c+f+f+b+c+b+f)
    5 K MP (Hero's M = 20.27; f+r+f+f+F+f+f+c+c+s+b+r+f+f)
    6 8 MP2 (Hero's M = 20.22; f+f+f+F+f+f+f+f)
    6 4 UTG+2 (Hero's M = 20.16; f+r+F+f+f+f+f+f+f)

    -----Hand 23-----
    Hero's M = 20.11
    PokerStars Game #28368154362: Tournament #163920728, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2009/05/19 12:39:30 EET [2009/05/19 5:39:30 ET]
    Table '163920728 42' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 2: Hero (18095)
    Seat 3: csicsiku (48448)
    Seat 4: DallasCorben (8220)
    Seat 5: xxvidalxx (17684)
    Seat 6: RevoluShawn (12449)
    Seat 7: il Paulie (7967)
    Seat 8: slycanadian1 (19608)
    Seat 9: drunkncowboy (32092)
    slycanadian1: posts small blind 300
    drunkncowboy: posts big blind 600
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero Q A
    Hero: raises 1200 to 1800
    csicsiku: folds
    DallasCorben: folds
    xxvidalxx: folds
    RevoluShawn: folds
    il Paulie: folds
    slycanadian1: folds
    drunkncowboy: folds
    Uncalled bet (1200) returned to Hero
    Hero collected 1900

    -----Hand 24-----
    Hero's M = 21.49
    PokerStars Game #28368159775: Tournament #163920728, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2009/05/19 12:39:52 EET [2009/05/19 5:39:52 ET]
    Table '163920728 42' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 2: Hero (19345)
    Seat 3: csicsiku (48398)
    Seat 4: DallasCorben (8170)
    Seat 5: xxvidalxx (17634)
    Seat 6: RevoluShawn (12399)
    Seat 7: il Paulie (7917)
    Seat 8: slycanadian1 (19258)
    Seat 9: drunkncowboy (31442)
    drunkncowboy: posts small blind 300
    Hero: posts big blind 600
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero A J
    csicsiku: folds
    DallasCorben: folds
    xxvidalxx: folds
    RevoluShawn: folds
    il Paulie: folds
    slycanadian1: raises 1200 to 1800
    drunkncowboy: folds
    Hero: raises 2400 to 4200
    slycanadian1: raises 15008 to 19208 and is all-in
    Hero: folds
    Uncalled bet (15008) returned to slycanadian1
    slycanadian1 collected 9100

    What do you think of this fold? There's a pretty good chance this guy was just trying to get back at me, he folded to my reraise a couple hands earlier..

    Q 2 BB (Hero's M = 16.77; f+f+f+r+f+f+F+f)
    3 J Button (Hero's M = 16.38; f+f+f+c+f+f+F+f+s+s+s+s+b+f)
    7 Q CO (Hero's M = 16.33; f+c+f+r+f+F+f+f+f+f)

    -----Hand 25-----
    Hero's M = 12.20
    PokerStars Game #28368208637: Tournament #163920728, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (400/800) - 2009/05/19 12:43:10 EET [2009/05/19 5:43:10 ET]
    Table '163920728 42' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: desert1fox (6200)
    Seat 2: Hero (14645)
    Seat 3: csicsiku (47298)
    Seat 4: DallasCorben (7070)
    Seat 5: xxvidalxx (16834)
    Seat 6: RevoluShawn (12199)
    Seat 7: il Paulie (8417)
    Seat 8: slycanadian1 (25308)
    Seat 9: drunkncowboy (32892)
    xxvidalxx: posts small blind 400
    RevoluShawn: posts big blind 800
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero 6 6
    il Paulie: folds
    slycanadian1: folds
    drunkncowboy: folds
    desert1fox: folds
    Hero: raises 1600 to 2400
    csicsiku: folds
    DallasCorben: folds
    xxvidalxx: folds
    RevoluShawn: calls 1600
    Flop: J A Q
    RevoluShawn: bets 1600
    Hero: raises 2400 to 4000
    RevoluShawn: raises 5724 to 9724 and is all-in
    Hero: folds
    Uncalled bet (5724) returned to RevoluShawn
    RevoluShawn collected 13875

    The flop hit his range so bad.. so I thought better t fold.

    -----Hand 26-----
    Hero's M = 6.81
    PokerStars Game #28368231008: Tournament #163920728, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (400/800) - 2009/05/19 12:44:42 EET [2009/05/19 5:44:42 ET]
    Table '163920728 42' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: desert1fox (6125)
    Seat 2: Hero (8170)
    Seat 3: csicsiku (47223)
    Seat 4: DallasCorben (6995)
    Seat 5: xxvidalxx (16359)
    Seat 6: RevoluShawn (19599)
    Seat 7: il Paulie (8342)
    Seat 8: slycanadian1 (25233)
    Seat 9: drunkncowboy (32817)
    RevoluShawn: posts small blind 400
    il Paulie: posts big blind 800
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero Q A
    slycanadian1: raises 1600 to 2400
    drunkncowboy: folds
    desert1fox: folds
    Hero: raises 1600 to 4000
    csicsiku: folds
    DallasCorben: folds
    xxvidalxx: folds
    RevoluShawn: folds
    il Paulie: folds
    slycanadian1: raises 4000 to 8000
    Hero: raises 95 to 8095 and is all-in
    slycanadian1: calls 95
    Flop: J A Q
    Turn: 2
    River: K
    Showdown
    slycanadian1: shows A A (three of a kind, Aces)
    Hero: shows Q A (two pair, Aces and Queens)
    slycanadian1 collected 18065

    Am I giving too much credit for AQ by playing it this way?

    Thanks!
  2. #2
    Yeah you blew up bad here.

    21 - This is fine, raising preflop is also fine. Not sure why you want to fold the flop or the turn, they both seem like very easy calls to me?

    22 - Never resteal with crap against 4x raises because they're never folding, it's always a donk with a big hand. Why the small bet on the flop, you realize you're pot-committed if he shoves right? Why are you trying to induce him to come over the top when all you have is the J high flush draw?

    24 - Horrible fold that makes no sense. You already primed him to play back at you by bluffing him before, the reason you do that is to get action when you have a hand. Now you have one and you're folding? If you don't want to call a shove then just call the first raise instead of 3-betting, but 3-betting as a bluff against a guy who's primed to play back at you is just stupid.

    25 - Just fold when he leads the flop come on, you have 66 on an AQJ board. What made you think this was a good spot to bluff a guy off a probable ace after you just got done spewing 1/4 of your stack three hands ago?

    26 - Now that you punted most of your stack, you already don't have much chance of going deep and your best bet is to just limp into the money and not take marginal gambles. AQ isn't strong enough against an UTG raiser in this situation.
  3. #3
    Thanx! As always, advice is good

    About hand 21 - my argument for folding on the flop is that by drawing and missing it, I lost over 3k chips.. I know I had good pot odds to call those bets, but it's happened to me enough times that I lose a substantial portion of my stack drawing (correctly) on some hand, and then I'm shortstacked and things get difficult.. yeah, raising pre would have been good.

    man, you're soo right about 22 and 24.. I need to work on my bluffs.
    25 as well, stupid bullying.

    Thanks again, good stuff

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