do you know how to read players on line?

[melinda1978]

i found that unlike the real life tourneysis really hard to get good reads on players. But i have notice that alot of players are really one dimensional if you keep notes on players, you can probably get a good idea ofhow they react to certain things. like the way they play good cards over and over again. Also how often they bluff.the only way i really see the reads is by keepingnotes on all players. Also wait a few hands beforeyou get into a serioushand with a new player. if any one has more info feel free to help, we are all her to learn, thanks

[Skeeno]

Time taken to act, bet sizing, previous stats and experience all pretty useful in guaging how good someone is, obviously you don't get the same eye contact and nervous twitch that you may get live but people do give things away online.

Taking notes is an excellent way of reading players, I don't do it enough but if you see someone raise A4 UTG make a note this kind of thing. Make notes of unusual things they do and if they play good hands weakly (trapping) - just observation.

[taipan168]

I think it's a bit of a myth perpetuated by the movies that you can read players in a live game by watching their facial expressions ("his left eyebrow twitched, therefore he has aces"). The most important read that you can pick up on players is how many hands they're playing preflop, how often they raise preflop, what they do postflop on various boards and what hands they show down. You can get this information just as well (in fact better, because mucked cards at showdown are displayed) in an online game as in a live game.

The other thing that is really useful is a heads up display which can display these sorts of statistics on the table as you play. I think this is indispensable once you are multitabling.

[JeffreyGB]

I think it's a bit of a myth perpetuated by the movies that you can read players in a live game by watching their facial expressions ("his left eyebrow twitched, therefore he has aces"). The most important read that you can pick up on players is how many hands they're playing preflop, how often they raise preflop, what they do postflop on various boards and what hands they show down. You can get this information just as well (in fact better, because mucked cards at showdown are displayed) in an online game as in a live game.

The other thing that is really useful is a heads up display which can display these sorts of statistics on the table as you play. I think this is indispensable once you are multitabling.

I don't think that you can get the kinds of "reads" people do in movies based on info from live poker. That said, I have two distinct times that I was able to tell that someone had a huge hand before they even acted, from some of the same types of things Caro talks about. One of them saved me from busting in a 2k event QQ v KK on an 8xx board.

[taipan168]

I think it's a bit of a myth perpetuated by the movies that you can read players in a live game by watching their facial expressions ("his left eyebrow twitched, therefore he has aces"). The most important read that you can pick up on players is how many hands they're playing preflop, how often they raise preflop, what they do postflop on various boards and what hands they show down. You can get this information just as well (in fact better, because mucked cards at showdown are displayed) in an online game as in a live game.

The other thing that is really useful is a heads up display which can display these sorts of statistics on the table as you play. I think this is indispensable once you are multitabling.

I don't think that you can get the kinds of "reads" people do in movies based on info from live poker. That said, I have two distinct times that I was able to tell that someone had a huge hand before they even acted, from some of the same types of things Caro talks about. One of them saved me from busting in a 2k event QQ v KK on an 8xx board.

Not to say it doesn't exist, but I think it's over-rated relative to the sorts of "reads" you can get on players by means that are just as available online as live.

[baudib]

I think that's certainly true, tai, but there are times in live games that you can pick up pretty good solid reads from body language if you have a bit of history with your opponents and know what they do with a huge hand (AA preflop, a set on the flop) or with bluffs.

[taipan168]

You guys are probably right, I haven't had a lot of experience playing live games.

I think it's a bit of a myth perpetuated by the movies that you can read players in a live game by watching their facial expressions ("his left eyebrow twitched, therefore he has aces"). The most important read that you can pick up on players is how many hands they're playing preflop, how often they raise preflop, what they do postflop on various boards and what hands they show down. You can get this information just as well (in fact better, because mucked cards at showdown are displayed) in an online game as in a live game.

The other thing that is really useful is a heads up display which can display these sorts of statistics on the table as you play. I think this is indispensable once you are multitabling.

I don't think that you can get the kinds of "reads" people do in movies based on info from live poker. That said, I have two distinct times that I was able to tell that someone had a huge hand before they even acted, from some of the same types of things Caro talks about. One of them saved me from busting in a 2k event QQ v KK on an 8xx board.

Not to say it doesn't exist, but I think it's over-rated relative to the sorts of "reads" you can get on players by means that are just as available online as live.

I haven't played more than 3 days of live poker, but when the guy sighed and shoved all in, I was like "fuck overpair jacks he's got me". He had aces.

[FundelMental]

Time taken to act, bet sizing, previous stats and experience all pretty useful in guaging how good someone is, obviously you don't get the same eye contact and nervous twitch that you may get live but people do give things away online.

Taking notes is an excellent way of reading players, I don't do it enough but if you see someone raise A4 UTG make a note this kind of thing. Make notes of unusual things they do and if they play good hands weakly (trapping) - just observation.

I agree with this even the quick (dirty) check when you relly have a monster works makes them think you are weak .

[melinda1978]

thanks very helpfull,

[Luco]

Players who post when they join in EP-MP can be a first indication of fishiness. These sort of players often are positionally unaware and will open with the same hands from anywhere.